Alright.  Let's assume that you really had no intention to start a fight.  Then why did you post it here, with my name on it?  If you had a problem with me, why didn't you take it up with me?

Unless your name is Catbert, I don't know what you are reffering to. I quoted you, get over it, you said it, if you are that ashamed of what you posted, or were trying to hide it that badly, I'm sorry, but that is not my problem, or of my concern. And I am not accusing you of either.

I never said I had a problem with you, because I didn't.  I don't know where you get these ideas.  You aren't making any sense.

Alright.  Let's assume that you really had no intention to start a fight.  Then why did you post it here, with my name on it?  If you had a problem with me, why didn't you take it up with me?

Typical.

Hehe...  That's a good one, considering that I was the only conservative posting on the other board since it came back, and you were (for a while) the only liberal.  We're each our own 1-man regimes.

i r not p0litkal smaurt enuf

I think the only name that would fit would be Oxycons or something to that effect.

Like hell I will.  You started this, and now you want me to stop?

I started this topic. You started personal attacks.

It is personal. But not against you, like you seem to take it. But rather for Cat. I would have done the same thing for you. If anyone made the thread you did on the other board, I would have taken it here. You seem to think this is about me and you, and it isn't, or at least wasn't.

Because like I said, I wanted Cat to be able to defend himself, because it seemed that the post was in response to Cat's.

Defending yourself? Give me a fucking break . . .

Whoa, slow down there, slugger. I don't know where you get these ideas.

I don't understand what you're even talking about. How was this my battle when I made this thread?

You can be a real asshole, and a bully Brim. You really can be. Leave me alone.

Like hell I will.  You started this, and now you want me to stop?
You said you posted this so that Cat could defend himself.  Then, you said that you would defend him, if he chose not to.  That has nothing to do with politics, that's personal.  And if you wanted a debate, why didn't you post your own views on the arguments?  You made this personal, and now you have the nerve to call me an "asshole" and a "bully" for calling you on it and defending myself?

You want to fight with me?  Fine.  Then bring the fight to ME.  Don't try to throw other people in the middle of it because you can't fight your battles.  I didn't start this, but I'll be damned if I don't see it through.

I posted for simply reasons.

I like political debates, and wanted to see another. And yes I felt since Catbert seemed to be the spark to all of this, he should have some say in it. And I made the remark about "defense" because I was more than happy to get into a political debate myself. One on my intentions, morals, and motives is a different story.

Bu, unfortunately, that is what you have turned, or are trying to turn this into.

You can be a real asshole, and a bully Brim. You really can be. Leave me alone.

Anyhow, I just wanted Cat to able to defend himself, since it started out as (somewhat of) an attack on him.

It wasn't an attack on Cat.  It was an attack on the distinct lack of conservative arguments on this board.  Cat was merely a prominent voice of the liberal side of the argument, and made for a good example.  If you had read the rest of the debate, it would have been abundantly clear.  With that in mind...

Now, this shows that he did not post this looking for a debate, but rather a fight.  A debate could have ensued without taking the initial statement out of context and simply posting the arguments.  Now, if he had read the entire debate (of which Goth debated the other side of) he would have known that the debate had concluded, making the posting of my views here inconsequential.

Now, if he had read the entire thing and still felt as though I was attacking Cat, the right thing to do would have been to ask me personally for an explainaion first.  Instead he posted it here, forcing me to "defend" my statements to this board.  He was looking to start a fight, nothing more.

Quite frankly, it was underhanded, tactless, and showed nothing more than a need to start trouble, which prompted my initial response.  And yes, my statements in the initial response where (in part) a personal attack on mold.  I feel that I was done an injustice by him, from what I have already explained, and that the response was warranted.  He wanted a fight, I'm more than willing to give him one.

I found the following on the "other board", which I cannot post on. I thought it fair for you to be able to defend yourself, if you choose not to, I will for you.

Mind you, this is all I said . . .

Jesus Christ . . .

Anyhow, I just wanted Cat to able to defend himself, since it started out as (somewhat of) an attack on him. If people were posting on other boards that I could not access, stating my name, and telling other people how wrong I was, I would want someone to inform me. I would do the same for you, Brimstone.

Also, it interests me greatly that you can sit here and talk about how I just like to argue and can't have a civil debate (which is extrememly random and has nothing to do with this topic) yet list several paragraphs, burning me on various things.

Anyway, sorry it upseted you so much, but oh-frickin-well.

I would like to point out that I posted that on August 4th. It's an old conversation and I think it speaks for itself, so I won't be adding anything to it.  That being said, I'd like to take this time to ponder why mold felt the need to post this here, as it was intended for the other board....

Since returning here, Cat and I have had a few civil conversations and debates.  My guess would be that mold saw this and decided that it simply would not due.  As we all know, mold would rather get into an argument than a civil debate.  While I tend to share this view, I have rather enjoyed my conversations with Cat.  From what I've learned about mold, he seems to be the kind of person who can't stand the thought that he could ever be wrong, and insists on resorting to petty attacks when he is called on it.

Now, this brings us to this particular post.  It's rather obvious to me that mold, believing that he and I are "more alike than I will admit," has a hard time accepting that I can have civil debates with others; that I can converse and joke around with someone without letting anything get personal.  My guess is because admiting this would be akin to admiting that he is more often than not the catalist which causes so many of our debates to degenerate.

Of course, this is merely an opinion...  though it's still rather disapointing.

I disagree with you entirely on this one Brim. I think Mold just wanted to get a good debate started again since he doesn't have access to the new board yet and he gets bored here without his arch-enemy posting. But seriously I see nothing wrong with what Mold did, and I am sure he wanted to here Catbert's side of what you said as well.(Not about this but the debate).