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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>btw.. the recession in our Economy, is said by economists to have started in January - March of 2001... NO WAY can you blame that on Bush figuring he hadnt even been in office for much more than a month at the most.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Fireborn]]></name>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T19:56:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>I&#039;m sorry but I see Abraham Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt as being FAR more like the democrats today than the republicans today, based on their actions.</p></blockquote></div><p>To quote myself: In reality of seeing how the parties were 150 eyars ago and how the Democrats and Republicans are today, they really are not that different in comparison.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gothic]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/253/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T19:51:36Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/32413/#p32413</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Meep... wtf.. I sooo had quotes in my post.. gotta put those in now hehe</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Fireborn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/19/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T19:49:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My reply to W&#039;s speech is taking longer than anticipated, and I grow tired.</p><p>I will rest and probably finish the reply to it sometime tonight.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Catbert]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/5/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T19:49:36Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/32410/#p32410"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Though Communism is inherrently flawed, we did affect the downfall of Soviet Russia directly. If it weren&#039;t for us, they wouldn&#039;t have spent so much money competing during the space-race, or the nuclear arms race, and it would have taken them a lot longer to go bankrupt.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thats what I am saying, We stood in their way but we had no direct method of bringing their communist regime down, It was simply instability from within.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>You are correct on this. However, the ideology of the &quot;democratic&quot; party back then was more closely related to that of the republican party today. Actually, back then, both parties were more closely related to today&#039;s republican party. Food for thought.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m sorry but I see Abraham Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt as being FAR more like the democrats today than the republicans today, based on their actions.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>It is stabilized (more or less). The current unemployment rate is 5.4%. This was reported about 6 hours ago by CBS News.</p></blockquote></div><p>My statement about the economy was in retaliation to Anrold saying that Bush inherited a bad economy due to Clinton&#039;s presidency, which as I stated current economists say that niether Clinton, nor Bush, had any affect on it but rather it was just the election itself. </p><p>Btw a good economy is one that is stated to have less than 5% unemployment rate. So ours right now still wouldnt be considered good in the eyes of most economists.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gothic]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/253/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T19:49:25Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/32410/#p32410</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/32408/#p32408"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Suck it up, FB! <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[brimstone1392]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/596/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T19:48:36Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/32408/#p32408</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I would also like to say though Brim.. I had to do a report on Lincoln my Senior year.. He was a fairly conservative president.. He would in no way today be considered a Moderate, however he isnt Bush or Reagan Conservative..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Fireborn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/19/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T19:48:33Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/32407/#p32407</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You suck Brim =p&nbsp; You posted before me..</p><br /><p>That sooooooo isnt fair! I was in mid-post when I had to go to the store for my mother =p</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Fireborn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/19/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T19:44:48Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/32404/#p32404</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>FACT: Point of reference: We, although stood in the Soveit&#039;s way from taking voer many countries, had no direct affect on their fall from power. In essence no empire will last forever and theirs just sorta fell due to that. Instability from within.</p></blockquote></div><p>Whether you believe it or not America played a big part in the fall of the Soviet Union.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>FACT: This is mainly aimed towards the Abraham Lincoln statement. I am not sure how long ago, but at some point in the mid 1800&#039;s the Republican party back then WAS the Democratic party. So I am not entirely sure if he is the kind of Republican they actually wanted in that speech, or maybe he was just using him simply cause it said Republican despite its actual meaning.</p></blockquote></div><p>From what i have read about Abraham Lincoln he was a fairly conservative president.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>FACT: Actually currect economists show that in mid 2001 out unemployment was just below 5%(which is REALLY good if you know your economy) and then with the coming election is rose to about 8%. This, it is figured, wasn&#039;t due to any of the actual standing parties but rather all the rapid attention around the coming election. However 4 years should have been enough to stabilize this.</p></blockquote></div><p>Actually I have heard the current numbers being placed at 5.34% as of right now.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>FACT: Actually AMERICAN Leadership is. We don&#039;t elect people so they can get into power and do whatever the FUCK they please. We elect em in the interest that they will do what the majority of US think is right. Did he do that? NO! He took advantage of the power WE gave him and did what WE didn&#039;t want him to do.</p></blockquote></div><p>The American leadership is that we Elect a person to run the country in the way they see best. Not the way we see best, because the people are sometimes not right. If it were the peoples choice we would have a lack of laws and a lack of taxes.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>FACT: We weren&#039;t hoping for him. No. We were hoping for increased trade with China. We were hoping for more money.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>O yeah.. Just because you say that.. it must be true.. since after all we are all heartless..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Fireborn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/19/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T19:42:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>First off, Goth, I DO NOT think you are dumb, stupid, moronic, or any other such thing.&nbsp; However, now that you have presented some &quot;facts,&quot; I can reply...<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>FACT: Point of reference: We, although stood in the Soveit&#039;s way from taking voer many countries, had no direct affect on their fall from power.</p></blockquote></div><p>Though Communism is inherrently flawed, we did affect the downfall of Soviet Russia directly.&nbsp; If it weren&#039;t for us, they wouldn&#039;t have spent so much money competing during the space-race, or the nuclear arms race, and it would have taken them a lot longer to go bankrupt.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>FACT: This is mainly aimed towards the Abraham Lincoln statement. I am not sure how long ago, but at some point in the mid 1800&#039;s the Republican party back then WAS the Democratic party.</p></blockquote></div><p>You are correct on this.&nbsp; However, the ideology of the &quot;democratic&quot; party back then was more closely related to that of the republican party today.&nbsp; Actually, back then, both parties were more closely related to today&#039;s republican party.&nbsp; Food for thought.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>FACT: Actually currect economists show that in mid 2001 out unemployment was just below 5%(which is REALLY good if you know your economy) and then with the coming election is rose to about 8%. This, it is figured, wasn&#039;t due to any of the actual standing parties but rather all the rapid attention around the coming election. However 4 years should have been enough to stabilize this.</p></blockquote></div><p>It is stabilized (more or less).&nbsp; The current unemployment rate is 5.4%.&nbsp; This was reported about 6 hours ago by CBS News.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>FACT: Actually AMERICAN Leadership is. We don&#039;t elect people so they can get into power and do whatever the FUCK they please.</p></blockquote></div><p>Really?&nbsp; Polls show that the majority of us think that abortion is wrong. And yet, no one has outlawed abortion.&nbsp; This is a REPUBLIC.&nbsp; We don&#039;t elect people to do what we want them to do, that&#039;s part of a democracy.&nbsp; We elect people whom we believe have a like-minded attitude as us towards certain issues, and will do what we would do in their position.</p><p>Oh, and in case anyone responds with &quot;a republic is a form of democracy,&quot; remember this:&nbsp; Softball is a form of Baseball, but only an idiot would get the 2 confused. <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> </p><p>(breatheless? No.&nbsp; Flabbergasted?&nbsp; Perhaps. <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /> )</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[brimstone1392]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/596/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T19:36:32Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/32400/#p32400"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>I didnt care about your rebutle to Arnolds speech.. I didnt even read the entire thing. All i saw when i started reading it was Opinion, and no fact. I don&#039;t normally read opinions of people on this board.</p></blockquote></div><p>FACT: Point of reference: We, although stood in the Soveit&#039;s way from taking voer many countries, had no direct affect on their fall from power. In essence no empire will last forever and theirs just sorta fell due to that. Instability from within. </p><p>FACT: This is mainly aimed towards the Abraham Lincoln statement. I am not sure how long ago, but at some point in the mid 1800&#039;s the Republican party back then WAS the Democratic party. So I am not entirely sure if he is the kind of Republican they actually wanted in that speech, or maybe he was just using him simply cause it said Republican despite its actual meaning. </p><p>FACT:&nbsp; Actually currect economists show that in mid 2001 out unemployment was just below 5%(which is REALLY good if you know your economy) and then with the coming election is rose to about 8%. This, it is figured, wasn&#039;t due to any of the actual standing parties but rather all the rapid attention around the coming election. However 4 years should have been enough to stabilize this.</p><p>FACT: Actually AMERICAN Leadership is. We don&#039;t elect people so they can get into power and do whatever the FUCK they please. We elect em in the interest that they will do what the majority of US think is right. Did he do that? NO! He took advantage of the power WE gave him and did what WE didn&#039;t want him to do.</p><p>FACT: We weren&#039;t hoping for him. No. We were hoping for increased trade with China. We were hoping for more money.</p><p>Look em up for yourself Fb, cause those are facts not opinions.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Gothic]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/253/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T18:42:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Fb, I am sure you and Brim are the only ones who think I am a moron, which is fine by me because why the fuck should I care what you think about this discussion? Obviously you are gonna defend him and be insulted by what I say about him. And you stated earler that you weren&#039;t insulted but its obvious you are, since naturally you are the one keeping this going. I&#039;d have left it where it stood, where I said: </p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>I was pissed about what they did with his platform.</p></blockquote></div><p>It was nothing more, no facts, no arguement, no petty bitch-fighting like we are doing now. An opinion is an opinion and I am entitled to my own. Deal with it, although I see that conservatives have a hard time when somebody else&#039;s opinion does not match their own.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Gothic]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/253/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T18:35:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I didnt care about your rebutle to Arnolds speech.. I didnt even read the entire thing. All i saw when i started reading it was Opinion, and no fact. I don&#039;t normally read opinions of people on this board.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Fireborn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/19/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T18:34:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>They you bitch about his platform make you look like a moron yourself.. but fine go ahead and bitch, i welcome it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Fireborn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/19/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T18:30:50Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: George W. Bush]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#039;t looking. In fact I heard it on the news about how they were building this platform for him, and started discussing it with my girlfriend.</p><p>Please when I have formulated my response to his speech it&#039;ll be exactly what you saw when I covered Arnold&#039;s speech, and I am sure you and Brim will be left just as breathless, and without reply.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gothic]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/253/</uri>
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			<updated>2004-09-03T18:28:51Z</updated>
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