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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>dam... broke it.. .only had 3 dura... or was it 2?</p></blockquote></div><p>Does anyone hate this little shit as much as I do?</p><p>Come on! You people have to realize he&#039;s a complete idiot! </p><p>Ban plz, thx.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Someone_At_Nothing]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1420/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-04-30T11:43:11Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/43449/#p43449</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>As for there to be no bias let the names are Sam and Bob.</p><p>This is what I have heard and I cannot clarify as truth</p><p>Sam bet Bob 50k for a duel. Bob won the first match so Sam gave Bob 50k<br />From what Sam said, he claimed that one of them wanted a best two out of three match for the 50k. I cannot confirm if that is true or not. According to Bob, an unfair set of rules was laid out so even though Sam won that match, Bob will keep the 50k<br />Another story is that Bob wasn’t aware that there was a best two out of three for the 50k pot.</p><p>This is where I stepped in, in an attempt to settle the matter.</p><p>A deciding duel was laid out. Best two out of three. Sam must use his own character and Bob is restricted to using his bow. The only magic allowed is IM. Stealth was banned from the match. Sam used a sword. I took the 50k pot from Bob for safe-keeping.</p><p>After three duels with no outside interference, the duel was 2-1 in favor of Sam. Since Sam won, he believed that he deserved the pot. Bob discovered that only the 50k was in the pot and that since Sam didn’t place a additional 50k in the pot, the duel wasn’t legit. Due to that thinking, Bob believed that at least the gold should be split 50/50 between them.</p><p>As of this post, I have 50k in my bank and two angry people behind two characters who are mad at me and want the gold. I leave this conflict up to you Faldon, GMs in particular in deciding who the rightful owner of this 50k pot is.</p></blockquote></div><p>This isn&#039;t a GM matter.</p><p>What should have happened is - you should have waited until a Gm or M logged on, asked them nicely to act as referee, and let them set the rules.</p><p>I mediated many duels, trades, etc, back when I was around more often.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yay....</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lothar]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/421/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-04-30T03:08:23Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/43443/#p43443</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>As for there to be no bias let the names are Sam and Bob.</p><p>This is what I have heard and I cannot clarify as truth</p><p>Sam bet Bob 50k for a duel. Bob won the first match so Sam gave Bob 50k<br />From what Sam said, he claimed that one of them wanted a best two out of three match for the 50k. I cannot confirm if that is true or not. According to Bob, an unfair set of rules was laid out so even though Sam won that match, Bob will keep the 50k<br />Another story is that Bob wasn’t aware that there was a best two out of three for the 50k pot.</p><p>This is where I stepped in, in an attempt to settle the matter.</p><p>A deciding duel was laid out. Best two out of three. Sam must use his own character and Bob is restricted to using his bow. The only magic allowed is IM. Stealth was banned from the match. Sam used a sword. I took the 50k pot from Bob for safe-keeping.</p><p>After three duels with no outside interference, the duel was 2-1 in favor of Sam. Since Sam won, he believed that he deserved the pot. Bob discovered that only the 50k was in the pot and that since Sam didn’t place a additional 50k in the pot, the duel wasn’t legit. Due to that thinking, Bob believed that at least the gold should be split 50/50 between them.</p><p>As of this post, I have 50k in my bank and two angry people behind two characters who are mad at me and want the gold. I leave this conflict up to you Faldon, GMs in particular in deciding who the rightful owner of this 50k pot is.</p></blockquote></div><p>This isn&#039;t a GM matter.</p><p>What should have happened is - you should have waited until a Gm or M logged on, asked them nicely to act as referee, and let them set the rules.</p><p>I mediated many duels, trades, etc, back when I was around more often.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mumblee]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/15/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-04-30T00:05:20Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/43441/#p43441</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>dam... broke it.. .only had 3 dura... or was it 2?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[skawnthebigd]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1203/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-04-29T18:34:23Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/43435/#p43435</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>50k...</p><p>Quit bitching! It&#039;s 50k!</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Someone_At_Nothing]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1420/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2005-04-29T15:11:00Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/43429/#p43429</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Give the 50k back to the guy who gave you it. End of story.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Kral WOOT]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1432/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-04-26T12:48:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/43279/#p43279"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sob should get the 50k, or was it Bam?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Makaveli]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/70/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-04-25T20:50:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I am the &lt;3&#039;ing Fear Factory.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GuEsT_Fr33K]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1152/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-04-19T20:10:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>I think by giving him the 50k they involved him in the problem.</p><p>obviously he has trust in Skawn in holding the moneya nd making a decision to the outcome of the event.</p><p>i think if only one party dished up the dough before the match. Then it showed only one of them was commited to actually pay if they lost.</p><p>I say give sam back his money and stuff bob for placing a false bet.</p><p>If it was a legitimate bet then both paty&#039;s should have handed you 50k and the winner take all, Or oth keep the money.</p><p>The fact that one party involved you and not the other makes the bet have 2 likely outcomes( as seen here) which makes it Non Statistical meaning the bet is now Null and Void. <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Give Sam back his money, and stuff Bob for placing a false bet?<br />If you read correctly Bob is the one complaining Sam did not<br />place a bet. Like I said before, Skawn, give the money back<br />to whoever handed it to you. Don&#039;t try sorting out other peoples<br />issues when you are not fit to do so. If you are REALLY that<br />concerned about it, hand them both 50k... It isn&#039;t a lot anyway..</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lothar]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/421/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2005-04-19T15:45:15Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/42387/#p42387</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Consumed with memories that preceded today<br />Given a chance to bereave life that&#039;s slipping away</p><p>Suffered through tragedy of my slow decay<br />Deceptive tendencies dragged my soul away</p><p>All that I know there was no God for me<br />Force that shatters all, absence of morality</p><p>Revive all my fears<br />Revive wasted tears<br />Revive void within<br />Revive once again...</p><p>Forsaken by destiny, forsaken by my own mind<br />I must remove my skin to see belief in your eyes</p><p>All that I know there was no God for me<br />Force that shatters all, absence of humanity</p><p>Revive all my fears<br />Revive wasted tears<br />Revive void within<br />Revive once again...</p><p>Reach for the sky<br />Touch the sky<br />Revive a hope<br />For mankind</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[X To The Z]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/513/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-04-19T07:07:12Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/42360/#p42360</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>N1 Nick. You&#039;re bored so you just paste random song lyrics in a totally irrelevant thread? GENIUS</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[X To The Z]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/513/</uri>
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			<updated>2005-04-19T06:59:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/42354/#p42354"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nihilistic mystics<br />Apostolic Alcoholics<br />Messianic Manics<br />In the age of super-boredom<br />Hype and mediocrity<br />Celebrate relentlessness<br />Menace to society</p><p>Refuse is our inspiration<br />Terrorism our trade<br />Sabotage and piracy<br />Chaos our mental sate</p><p>Mesmerizing festering<br />Intended for the faint of heart<br />Cultish and Anthemic<br />Until death us do part</p><p>Like a fiendish tropic virus<br />Spitting bile at all you whore<br />Razor-sharp tongue-in-cheek<br />Poking in your open sores<br />A wolf in sheep&#039;s clothing<br />The ultimate disgrace<br />Wrapped up as a gift of God<br />Exploding in your face</p><p>This is counter-culture<br />From the underground<br />Eternal revolution this is our sound<br />KMFDM better than the best<br />Megalomaniacal and harder than the rest</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GuEsT_Fr33K]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1152/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2005-04-19T06:27:10Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/42354/#p42354</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/42335/#p42335"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think by giving him the 50k they involved him in the problem.</p><p>obviously he has trust in Skawn in holding the moneya nd making a decision to the outcome of the event.</p><p>i think if only one party dished up the dough before the match. Then it showed only one of them was commited to actually pay if they lost.</p><p>I say give sam back his money and stuff bob for placing a false bet.</p><p>If it was a legitimate bet then both paty&#039;s should have handed you 50k and the winner take all, Or oth keep the money.</p><p>The fact that one party involved you and not the other makes the bet have 2 likely outcomes( as seen here) which makes it Non Statistical meaning the bet is now Null and Void. <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jesus3]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1332/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2005-04-19T04:03:15Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/42335/#p42335</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Skawn:</p><p>I say hand the money back to Bob. It is Bob&#039;s decision what happens<br />with his money. He is not in agreeance with you taking it and dishing<br />it out. Faldon has no rules against saying you will give someone money<br />and not giving it. If the bet goes unpaid, let Sam learn a lesson from<br />it that he can&#039;t expect truth from every statement. Skawn, I guess<br />the real question is are you a thief? If not return the money to Bob,<br />let him handle the affair, and stay out of things that are not your<br />problem.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Lothar]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/421/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2005-04-18T16:09:38Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/42301/#p42301</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: A conflict between two prominent Players, calling GMs]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Fuck both of them...keep the money.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Gothic]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/253/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2005-04-18T04:34:36Z</updated>
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