<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom">
	<title type="html"><![CDATA[Faldon Forums - Just some perspective]]></title>
	<link rel="self" href="https://www.faldon.org/feed/atom/topic/4941/"/>
	<updated>2010-02-21T13:19:10Z</updated>
	<generator>PunBB</generator>
	<id>https://www.faldon.org/topic/4941/</id>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Just some perspective]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/62710/#p62710"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Mumblee I supported you!</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[zammbi]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/76/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-02-21T13:19:10Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/62710/#p62710</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Just some perspective]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/62658/#p62658"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Fireborn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I hate him because the fucker always hogged the skeleton spawn. There is only so far I can level on rats!</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Should have&nbsp; been like me, and been on his side =P</p><p>I miss the old days of this client, was actually fun to be among the firsts doing stuff.</p><p>As far as GM corruption, this game has always had it, and always will.&nbsp; Don&#039;t think I have met a non corrupt one in any of my time.&nbsp; That is humanity, they may go in pure, but will always become jaded.</p><p>I think I was one of the people Lothar might have banned, cause I know when I came back one day I kept saying who the hell is this douchebag, but I never logged back in after I got kicked.</p><br /><p>Anyways, Eric and fire hope things are well.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[ZakkHoe]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1788/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-01-14T14:30:56Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/62658/#p62658</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Just some perspective]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/62641/#p62641"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Killing skeletons is serious business.&nbsp; Maybe you weren&#039;t ready for it.&nbsp; Maybe you still aren&#039;t.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Mumblee]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/15/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-01-07T20:46:15Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/62641/#p62641</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Just some perspective]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/62639/#p62639"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I hate him because the fucker always hogged the skeleton spawn. There is only so far I can level on rats!</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Fireborn]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/19/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-01-07T08:03:37Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/62639/#p62639</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Just some perspective]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/62627/#p62627"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>No Mumblee you misunderstood.<br />i was asking why people hated you</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Forest Haven]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/3941/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-12-31T09:17:13Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/62627/#p62627</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Just some perspective]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/62625/#p62625"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t hate him.&nbsp; For the most part, I agree with him.&nbsp; I just thought that this was a very interesting end to Lothar&#039;s time as Gm, given the history.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Mumblee]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/15/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-12-30T23:59:28Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/62625/#p62625</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Just some perspective]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/62609/#p62609"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Mumblee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>..there&#039;s no reason that Gms should have some super-special chat immunity.&nbsp; Gms are simply players who have been granted the ability to create new content and to handle players who break the terms of service.&nbsp; We&#039;re not gods, and thus we are governed by rules like everyone else....</p></blockquote></div><p>Why do people hate this guy ? O.o</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Forest Haven]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/3941/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-12-24T09:20:55Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/62609/#p62609</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Just some perspective]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/62400/#p62400"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Mumblee <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Veega]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/705/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-11-24T08:37:03Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/62400/#p62400</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Just some perspective]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/62396/#p62396"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So, I noticed Lothar&#039;s message on the front page, followed by his quazi-anonymous whistleblowing in a separate thread.&nbsp; While he&#039;s absolutely right that Faldon has historically chosen lots of corrupt Gms and balked at the idea of any sort of oversight, and I&#039;d be making the exact same argument as he is in that situation (you&#039;re seriously gonna give someone with that kind of a history even greater power to abuse?), there is a sort of ironic twist to things.&nbsp; The thing that strikes me about Lothar&#039;s post is that he claims he was without fault as a Gm.&nbsp; This is not the way I remember things:</p><p>The story starts back when I was a Gm.&nbsp; It was no secret that Lothar and I didn&#039;t see eye to eye.&nbsp; That was fine when I was a higher level Gm than him, but once he was promoted to the same level as Catbert and I, his head ballooned.&nbsp; If I recall correctly, one day he banned some players who had been badmouthing him.&nbsp; I unbanned the players, because there&#039;s no reason that Gms should have some super-special chat immunity.&nbsp; Gms are simply players who have been granted the ability to create new content and to handle players who break the terms of service.&nbsp; We&#039;re not gods, and thus we are governed by rules like everyone else.&nbsp; In my opinion not only was Lothar&#039;s way of handling these players against the rules, but it was cowardly and more than likely to result in more trouble from those players.</p><p>As you might imagine, Lothar wasn&#039;t real happy when he saw those players back online, and he and I argued about it.&nbsp; My argument is that we were governed by rules and that we couldn&#039;t just ban people we didn&#039;t like.&nbsp; His argument was that as GMs, we could do whatever we wanted, as long as it was a means to an end.&nbsp; He even tried using the &quot;As Gms, we have to stick together, no matter what&quot; claim, which was preposterous.&nbsp; I had won the trust of the players by being transparent and following a very clear set of guidelines about what was and was not allowed in Faldon.</p><p>In my mind, this was Gm corruption (this is not to mention the suspicions I had about other things he was doing for his friends, GeG started out as pretty much a huge laundering operation imo).&nbsp; He was using his power to punish players who weren&#039;t doing anything wrong, simply because he couldn&#039;t handle criticism.</p><p>He eventually went over my head, first to Crovax, then to Spectre, finally to Coma and Zer, in order to get me removed as a Gm due to inactivity because I hadn&#039;t finished my map yet.&nbsp; (Even though Gms like Cali, Illuminati, Wu, etc used to go MIA for huge periods of time without losing their accounts.&nbsp; Also, I WAS working on my map, and it was probably 95% done with less than a month of NPC and scripting work left to launch it).&nbsp; It was a dick move.</p><p>The irony, then, is that Lothar is quitting because of a potentially corrupt incoming Gm, when only a few years ago he got another Gm removed because they refused to be complicit to HIS corruption.</p><p>-Mumblee</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Mumblee]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/15/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2009-11-23T23:13:48Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/62396/#p62396</id>
		</entry>
</feed>
