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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Master Wu wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Meanstreak wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Acceptable behavior??</p><p>I may of brushed this whole affair under the carpet now, but <strong>that</strong> has to be the first time I have ever read a mmorpg administrator supporting acts of cheating... I&#039;m actually quite shocked!&nbsp; <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Well, let me try and clear this up...</p><p>You gave items to another player. The person you gave them to wasn&#039;t who you thought they were, they deceived you. It is unfortunate, but not cheating. <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p><p>Players are allowed freely give items to other players at their own discretion, and own risk. The other element of deception, isn&#039;t against any rules either. I don&#039;t know how else to describe the situation. We can and will take steps to reduce impersonations in the future. But to be consistent and realistic, this is the only stance we can take on it.</p><p>The wall-walking hack/cheat: That is <strong>not</strong> acceptable. And I believe Spy is currently working on some countermeasures for that. Though, I don&#039;t understand how that is relevant to this topic really, <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /> I didn&#039;t mention people wall hacking, or cheating.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well that&#039;s fair enough I suppose. At least you had taken the time to reply to this issue and admit there is a problem with it. Guess I&#039;ll just have to make certain to double check names in future...&nbsp; <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>Heh... well this topic was originally about Baghy, and it was HIM doing the wall hacking... so...&nbsp; <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /> Glad to know something is being done about that though. Cause unlike the cloned name thing, this isn&#039;t down to player indiscretion, it&#039;s just plain cheating/hacking!&nbsp; <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Meanstreak]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/4508/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-11-25T10:21:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>he was raising his zerk then baghy came and killed his conwhore =O</p></blockquote></div><p>Actually, I had been. But had moved out to do some stuff on another map. Which is how I know it was <em>wall hacking</em>. Cause I thought about the possability he could of stealthed through the door as I left... but then as I said, I was on another map like 7-8 minutes later when it happened... The house was locked and the character was on the upper floor concealed in the middle. So yeah... unreachable basicly! Trouble is, this stuff always happens when nobody&#039;s on to ping his location and see what he does ever...</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Meanstreak]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/4508/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-11-23T11:59:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Judy wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Meanstreak wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Master Wu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It is acceptable behavior, and acceptable gameplay.</p></blockquote></div><p>Acceptable behavior??</p><p>I may of brushed this whole affair under the carpet now, but <strong>that</strong> has to be the first time I have ever read a mmorpg administrator supporting acts of cheating... I&#039;m actually quite shocked!&nbsp; <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p><p>-</p><p>Anyway, <strong>Baghy</strong> has clearly not brushed this under the carpet... He was <em>wall hacking</em> in to my house yesterday to kill my characters. <em>(Probably for payback for making a big deal of his scam on here.)</em></p><p>...Is <strong>that</strong> acceptable behavior and gameplay?&nbsp; <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p></blockquote></div><p>you cant really prove people using map editing, and if you even catch it on tape , it could be lag from your side. only thing i can suggest is keep ur aura on when going afk in ur house /=</p></blockquote></div><p>he was raising his zerk then baghy came and killed his conwhore =O</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[lord13516]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/4119/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-11-23T11:51:41Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/66059/#p66059</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Meanstreak wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Master Wu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It is acceptable behavior, and acceptable gameplay.</p></blockquote></div><p>Acceptable behavior??</p><p>I may of brushed this whole affair under the carpet now, but <strong>that</strong> has to be the first time I have ever read a mmorpg administrator supporting acts of cheating... I&#039;m actually quite shocked!&nbsp; <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p><p>-</p><p>Anyway, <strong>Baghy</strong> has clearly not brushed this under the carpet... He was <em>wall hacking</em> in to my house yesterday to kill my characters. <em>(Probably for payback for making a big deal of his scam on here.)</em></p><p>...Is <strong>that</strong> acceptable behavior and gameplay?&nbsp; <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p></blockquote></div><p>you cant really prove people using map editing, and if you even catch it on tape , it could be lag from your side. only thing i can suggest is keep ur aura on when going afk in ur house /=</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Judy]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/3394/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-11-23T11:28:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Master Wu wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It is acceptable behavior, and acceptable gameplay.</p></blockquote></div><p>Acceptable behavior??</p><p>I may of brushed this whole affair under the carpet now, but <strong>that</strong> has to be the first time I have ever read a mmorpg administrator supporting acts of cheating... I&#039;m actually quite shocked!&nbsp; <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p><p>-</p><p>Anyway, <strong>Baghy</strong> has clearly not brushed this under the carpet... He was <em>wall hacking</em> in to my house yesterday to kill my characters. <em>(Probably for payback for making a big deal of his scam on here.)</em></p><p>...Is <strong>that</strong> acceptable behavior and gameplay?&nbsp; <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Meanstreak]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/4508/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-11-23T10:17:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>i never scammed you before, so i guess just dealing with douchebags in a usd trade&nbsp; is a mother fucker.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Kr0nic]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1746/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-11-22T17:41:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Paybacks a mother fucker huh Eddie?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Cripkilla]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1296/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-11-20T23:08:46Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/66050/#p66050</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Cripkilla wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Shut up Eddie.</p></blockquote></div><p> its the truth faggot.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Kr0nic]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1746/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-11-19T19:31:02Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/66049/#p66049</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Master Wu wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Mumblee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> If you don&#039;t set a precedent of punishing players who act this way, you are implicitly setting the precedent that this behavior is acceptable gameplay - there is no way to be neutral on this.</p></blockquote></div><p>We&#039;re not neutral. It is acceptable behavior, and acceptable gameplay. Players are allowed to give game assets (items, gold, etc) to other players at their own risk, and own discretion. Players are allowed to deceive one another in-game.</p><p>Better fonts, better duplicate/similar name recognition, and offering explanations of policy in the TOS are good steps to take in minimizing the level at which people can do this sort of thing.</p></blockquote></div><p>Got it.&nbsp; Good to hear that you&#039;ve made a decision on the policy and it&#039;s now settled.&nbsp; I personally think it&#039;s absolutely the <em>wrong</em> decision, but then again it doesn&#039;t really effect me anyway.&nbsp; &nbsp;<img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Mumblee]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/15/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-11-19T18:07:31Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/66048/#p66048</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Shut up Eddie.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Cripkilla]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1296/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-11-19T17:15:13Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/66047/#p66047</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>dont talk to him chris, he was like that iwth me too until he decided to rip me for 60 usd</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Kr0nic]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1746/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-11-19T01:52:19Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/66046/#p66046</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/66045/#p66045"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m in and out. I just log on to bitch and complain <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Rader]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/403/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-11-19T01:44:07Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/66045/#p66045</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Damn rader what up? Line time no talk u need to start playing again!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Cripkilla]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/1296/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-11-18T22:54:34Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/66044/#p66044</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/66039/#p66039"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This game is now about who can troll better. Great&nbsp; <img src="https://www.faldon.org/img/smilies/roll.png" width="15" height="15" alt="roll" /></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Rader]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/403/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-11-18T04:20:14Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/66039/#p66039</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Baghy scammed me. Got ss proof.]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://www.faldon.org/post/66038/#p66038"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So its ok to scam people now aswell? why have tos at all if were alowed 2 haras ppl and scam ppl.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[barbie]]></name>
				<uri>https://www.faldon.org/user/3604/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2010-11-17T22:18:20Z</updated>
			<id>https://www.faldon.org/post/66038/#p66038</id>
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