Check bug forums. You can thank Mouse.

the blind leading the blind? unlucky

i see u removed the inventory slots that where protected? where they not added on old client also for pvp reasons so we dont have to restock on pots etc? (atleast i remember the slots being there to save pots or some shit in pvp scenarios) i see they are gone now was that on purpose?

Try this instead

you know if i send a try this link it wont be good

If the plan is to maybe have another client one day I feel it's necessary to take the steps in eliminating boting/afk macroing. Is it a bummer for some current players? Yes im sure it is considering the time they've put in to being able to build their programs, but where else are you going to play and not catch the same treatment? It's not an unfair ask for people to play faldon legit again.

James wrote:

(As an aside, I know what the "Faldron" bot can do. Does anyone know what "Autoloot" can do? I only know of its existence because it is at fault for 3/4 of the crashes of the game these days, so I detect it.)

Autoloot finds WorldItem packets near the player and sends the interact item packet for pickup based where the bot detects the loot (X,Y,Z) or corpse. Given on OF server this is/was a fairly expensive packet to check nearby map sectors and their item listing(s), I wouldn't be surprised if "auto loot" feature has a toll on yours as well, James.

It is the client received packet 141 which lists a world location id, item id (objedit.exe itemid), and an encoded x,y,z coordinate. The Packet ID (sent to server) I believe is packet ID #11 with 90 (decimal) operator type = pickup item. Perhaps remediation by changing the encoding method of the x,y,z corords or encrypting that packet (AFAIK on legacy client it wasnt encrypted)?

What OF did is (beyond a priority queue logic for received packets and caching...) added a small delay between processing of item related packets including pickup/drop/move/use items/mail/market and naive attempts at ignoring invalid, duplicate or garbage requests beyond that datetime stamp.

I ultimately went with a dictionary lookup for "world map items" and "map items" based on world location ID and item (serial or GUID as needful) to reduce the lookup time, I think.

Or or just hear me out on this , its 2024 , what about autoloot system like every other game has? like a small pet or something that picks up my loot to my inventory , faldon is a fairly grindy game and u kill same monster 100k+ times, clickin on those items to pick it up one by one is super outdated and could easily be solved. no reason for people to cheat if its added to the game. No reason for it not being part of the game either.

(As an aside, I know what the "Faldron" bot can do. Does anyone know what "Autoloot" can do? I only know of its existence because it is at fault for 3/4 of the crashes of the game these days, so I detect it.)

Autoloot finds WorldItem packets near the player and sends the interact item packet for pickup based where the bot detects the loot (X,Y,Z) or corpse. Given on OF server this is/was a fairly expensive packet to check nearby map sectors and their item listing(s), I wouldn't be surprised if "auto loot" feature has a toll on yours as well, James.

It is the client received packet 141 which lists a world location id, item id (objedit.exe itemid), and an encoded x,y,z coordinate. The Packet ID (sent to server) I believe is packet ID #11 with 90 (decimal) operator type = pickup item. Perhaps remediation by changing the encoding method of the x,y,z corords or encrypting that packet (AFAIK on legacy client it wasnt encrypted)?

What OF did is (beyond a priority queue logic for received packets and caching...) added a small delay between processing of item related packets including pickup/drop/move/use items/mail/market and naive attempts at ignoring invalid, duplicate or garbage requests beyond that datetime stamp.

I ultimately went with a dictionary lookup for "world map items" and "map items" based on world location ID and item (serial or GUID as needful) to reduce the lookup time, I think.

hahahahahah you fkin hypocrite rob pipe down have you not afk leveled or sold scripts!? lmfao

Maybe read the thread before calling people hypocrites? I've been open about my past involvement with automation. The difference is I can recognize when something's gone too far instead of just defending it.

I can't be bothered quoting my previous messages where I addressed this.

Can we focus on actual solutions instead of throwing around "gotchas"?

Mechanic wrote:

Mister Rob wrote:

Its seriously has been a while since Ive seen people actively try and make things better for others or new players (yeah I know youre here)

Idk, Tr!pp/Bartle did the youtube/insta stuff. I tried to revamp the wiki, Trav did some work on the guides, you did some fun stuff with the chat bot thing. There's some good in there.

Yeah, like I said I know they are around. Im just fed up with people thinking that botting should be allowed because thats the way they "play" the game and complain because of it.

hahahahahah you fkin hypocrite rob pipe down have you not afk leveled or  sold scripts!? lmfao

Bullet's been trying to get files and images of my stuff from a customer of mine

It's amusing to see you project so much insecurity when, in reality, no one needs access to your code to understand the fundamental flaws in your approach. It’s fascinating how you’re so quick to make baseless claims without grasping the mechanics at play. Let’s be clear: my bot doesn’t spam packets or cause infinite loops—those are fabrications you’ve invented, likely out of frustration. Optimizing your own process might be a better use of your time than obsessing over mine.

If your solution is so flawless, why does it break so easily? Clearly, sending just one packet isn’t the genius move you think it is, and the fragility of your approach is becoming more apparent by the day.

And let’s not even start on your accusation that I’m trying to "get your files and images." Why would I need to, when the inefficiencies in your bot are plain for everyone to see? Real progress doesn’t come from scavenging—it's about fundamentally rethinking approaches, something you’ve clearly missed while crashing your own client.

As for that time you tried to "help" me with configuring WPE packet sniffer—let’s not pretend that was groundbreaking. I don’t even use it. Wireshark has always been the superior tool for what I need. But if it makes you feel better, keep thinking that any progress I’ve made is tied to that minimal interaction. Meanwhile, I’ll keep pushing forward, while you can keep overlooking the obvious issues with your own bot.

What about 3rd party anti-cheat apps?
Every multiplayer game I play with potential for cheats uses an add on of some kind (VAC, Easy-Anti-Cheat, BattleEye, etc.).

Also, as others have pointed out, multiplayer games with PvP potential usually game-play risks that make automating difficult. These games are too dynamic, and unpredictable to setup relatively simple loops. And the risk of dying AFK could mean you lose all your equipment, inventory, or even get captured on top of all that.

Back to Zer's original idea presented- When a botting player is positively detected, make them vulnerable to attack by other players for a limited amount of time as a penalty, without the option to aura. This is a change within reach without an entire game overhaul or other large scale effort. We can presumably imagine how it might play out as a game mechanic, and it's not human monitoring and punishing people mechanic, which frankly is not ideal or scalable.

If that was implemented, maybe more people would actively play and go hunting AFK players? Botting would be more vulnerable of an activity, and the enforcement would be part of the game. Imagine being unable to aura, even in town for like 48 hours.

First of all, I think James started this topic to know people's opinions, because there's no difficult on blocking current cheats, the only difficult is taking the decision, that's why he probably started this. Upgrading server to SSL/TLS is enough to block all current cheats and James know it, he even mentioned that in game.

About aura, players who are afk leveling are never aura'ed, you can always kill them. The main problem started when a specific player made his bot to auto respawn and go back to the spawn, so you would only waste your time hunting him forever, so you would eventually get tired and he would go back to leveling. Also when their only task is respawning then egate back to their spawn to start bot isnt a big problem to them.