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Topic: Just a suggestion

lets see... how about gms concern themselves less with logging on just to jail people, and turn there efforts in to making this game better,, like attracting more people who might actually stick around, not pissing off existing players over retarded afk jailings. since they dont concern themselves with punishing players who continually violate chat rules, (anything goes, no matter how immature and abusive they can become), it really makes no sense that a gm might drive away players who do nothing to bother anyone.

ya i wrote this when i've had a bit to drink, so if it contains incomplete sentences or thoughts,, i blame alchohol,, and satan,,, and batman

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Players don't play or quit faldon based on what the Gms are doing, they do it based on the rest of the playerbase.  If the rest of the players are cheating, or being dicks in chat, players who are interested in playing the game the right way aren't going to stick around.

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To an extent I can agree with that.  A poor playerbase can totally cause people to stop playing, but isn't that what Moderators are for?  Aren't they there to keep the game under control so players don't cheat, and aren't dicks in chat?  I don't blame the assholes for the lack of players in the game, I blame the Mods for not being able to keep assholes under control.
And as for Slayer1's comment....
You're right, GMs shouldn't jail people, as a matter of fact, the jail system should be used for NPC police (Town Guards, etc...) to jail characters for in-game illegal activities (basically meaning if you walk by a Town Guard as a villian or murderer, you get jailed.)
When it comes to AFK levelling/skill raising, duping, zhacking, etc..., the character should be deleted, and if busted twice on the same account, there should be an account ban...
This would take care of the assholes logging on to bitch and be dicks because they got jailed doing things they shouldn't have been doing in the first place smile
BTW I like how you blame alcohol, Satan, AND Batman  lol

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I know I'm not the 1st person to bitch about gms or Ms loggin in JUST to jail people. (they sometimes feel that's their ONLY job). I'm also not the 1st nor will i be the last to quit the game due to Gms not doing their job, or "over-doing" their job. For a game that has a shitty player base, you'd think the Gamemasters would lighten the hell up on those people trying to join the game,, or old players returning to the game.(trying to get back in to this piece of shite game).
     I played  for a few years before i ever used a macro or used pets to camp. after a while i assimilated to the other Romans. For all the hours i've logged on sitting at my keyboard,  directly in front of the monitor, it's just a big let-down that I, and many others who might have to walk away for a bit, and they have to suffer the penalty of not being able to enjoy their C-time or even their P-time due to the fact they're sitting in jail for spending a little time afk tending to real life. 
     I know my words fall on deaf ears. which is why i wont afk camp anymore,(if i ever play the game again).TBH , camping, and the pit is probably the only somewhat fun thing to do in this game once you've raised whatever skills you wanna raise or leveled as many times as you possibly patiently can.  ill just log on to be a dick to anyone i can, since THAt's allowed. Sign me up for Faldon's Plague, cause it doesn't pay to be cool to people. ...and to think i've actually defended these gm's or m's on multiple occasions. i won't make that mistake again either.
    btw, selling my account, ya it isn't the best skilled account or highest leveled chars, but im 1 of the only divine archers(never once afk macro'd that shit) , and i'm including many nice items. mail me in game (Muff Hucker) if you're interested; which no one will be, due to the scamming situation and general lack of interest in paying the game.
    sorry for the novel again, hope you enjoyed reading as much as i enjoyed writing.

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You are far from the first person to bitch about it.

I don't like the fact that they log on and do nothing more than chat and jail as well.  GMs should very well be focused on bettering the game, and shouldn't even have the ability to punish characters, that's what Mods are for lol

As for players that can't "enjoy their C-time or even their P-time due to the fact they're sitting in jail for spending a little time afk tending to real life," well don't you think if you need to be tending to real life, you shouldn't be logged into Faldon anyway?

True there is nothing to do once you've reached a certain point lol, which is why I spent a couple years doing nothing but standing in my gh bullshitting with everybody lol.

Also, I would like to add that I too will be signing up for FP, only I'm serious...  Though I highly doubt they will let me in at level 100, I really have nothing better to do than pk the BRs and apply for the only guild that seems to be against them lol.

I thought Slayer and Muff were the same player.  You the original?

And yes, I enjoyed reading it as much as you enjoyed writing it.  I hope the same on your end haha

**Update, after reading through this as a single paragraph I realized it was very difficult to understand without reading my mind.  Hope the line breaks help lol

Last edited by crimdolyn420 (August 3rd, 2011 12:09 PM)

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When you get more specific I tend to agree more - there's a reason that there is a tiered Gm system, with M and multiple levels of Gm.

I will say that even with this system I still think Gm responsibilities include monitoring the players, but the higher they progress in the Gm ranks the smaller the percent of their responsibility it should be.  But if there is only one active staff, and he happens to be a Gm, making sure people aren't cheating has priority of mapmaking or scripting.

With that in mind, here's another way to look at it:  The less time you spend macroing or otherwise breaking the ToS, the more free time the Gms will have to work on new content.

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There needs to be more M's as Spy, is the only one regularly active, along with the occasional visit from Nips and Alumet.

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is it true you haven't been around much in the last year or so?  if you have been you might know more about other people being aggravated by the same things i'm talkin about. i'm not gonna name drop but no i'm not the only 1 who feels this way.

so with that, if i'm still considered to be the 1st person to bitch,, then i guess that makes me an innovative wave-maker possibly?
   
good idea about adding spaces to the paragraphs, it does help with having to read it, lol

    i like to multitask whenever possible. so i might log in and still have other things to accomplish, i.e doin shit around the house, workin on stuff on 1 of my other pcs, or even raising skills while i camp, if you don't multitask, then you're not using you're time as wisely as you could~! lol,, just sayin...

    it's just funny people can spend hours and hours logged in, sittin at the pc, and the minute you walk away some gm logs in, does their macro checks and if u don't reply they jail you( i know it isn't always their fault, most players generally tried to get away with anything they could in the past.) but it isn't always true.
     
      maybe they should just kill you,, then see how long it takes for you to reply, respawn or whatever,,, THEN if its just far too long of a time span, consider booting. jailing is pretty harsh, and it makes people less interested, as they can't do what they want with the character they like to play. it becomes wasted or unusable time for USD spent on this game.

  i used to walk back to town, or away from the spawns, but anymore it's just too counterproductive and time consuming to be walkin back and forth every time u have to walk away from the pc. the drop rates are so erratic you could spend 5 minutes or 5 months trying to get 1 item. sorta fun, but mostly not. why shouldn't we be able to walk away for a bit without having to interrupt our goals or tasks


    all i'm sayin is:

    is it a time for a change? probably.  lighten up and let people play the game, it will be better for everyone (including zer) in the long run. they put a stop to the wpe usage ( which let you cheat at everything), so that's a start at one end of the problem.

    is there something the gm's can do to make the game more enjoyable? obviously yes
but, without zer's input and attendance ,  the creative and constructive things are always at a standstill

dammit, another novel, i didn''t enjoy writing this one so much as the subject is already becoming boring, so i'm finished. hahah

you are correct slayer1 and muff hucker are the same person. i'm not "| muff |" , he played before my time here.

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Also something does need to be done about the BRs, if you kill them on pp em, they harrass you constantly about it. This is most BRs not all

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i also blame ADD. i don't have it,, but it still makes a good scapegoat

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Mumblee wrote:

When you get more specific I tend to agree more - there's a reason that there is a tiered Gm system, with M and multiple levels of Gm.

I will say that even with this system I still think Gm responsibilities include monitoring the players, but the higher they progress in the Gm ranks the smaller the percent of their responsibility it should be.  But if there is only one active staff, and he happens to be a Gm, making sure people aren't cheating has priority of mapmaking or scripting.

With that in mind, here's another way to look at it:  The less time you spend macroing or otherwise breaking the ToS, the more free time the Gms will have to work on new content.

I have an idea....  Let's make me an M  big_smile

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Slayer1 wrote:

is it true you haven't been around much in the last year or so?  if you have been you might know more about other people being aggravated by the same things i'm talkin about. i'm not gonna name drop but no i'm not the only 1 who feels this way.
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so with that, if i'm still considered to be the 1st person to bitch,, then i guess that makes me an innovative wave-maker possibly?
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good idea about adding spaces to the paragraphs, it does help with having to read it, lol

    i like to multitask whenever possible. so i might log in and still have other things to accomplish, i.e doin shit around the house, workin on stuff on 1 of my other pcs, or even raising skills while i camp, if you don't multitask, then you're not using you're time as wisely as you could~! lol,, just sayin...

    it's just funny people can spend hours and hours logged in, sittin at the pc, and the minute you walk away some gm logs in, does their macro checks and if u don't reply they jail you( i know it isn't always their fault, most players generally tried to get away with anything they could in the past.) but it isn't always true.
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maybe they should just kill you,, then see how long it takes for you to reply, respawn or whatever,,, THEN if its just far too long of a time span, consider booting. jailing is pretty harsh, and it makes people less interested, as they can't do what they want with the character they like to play. it becomes wasted or unusable time for USD spent on this game.
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Block 1:
I haven't been around for quite a while, so I'm sure I have missed a lot of it.

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I mis-typed my sentence, but corrected it, guess I should have worded it better lol.  It was meant to read "you are FAR FROM the first to bitch (in essence meaning MANY others have before you).

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I presented the idea of killing the "afk" player a while back as well.  Another idea would be to use an auto-logout feature after a set period of no movement... And yeah, this "argument" has become boring, and somewhat infuriating lol

Sykes wrote:

Also something does need to be done about the BRs, if you kill them on pp em, they harrass you constantly about it. This is most BRs not all

Yeah, either ban them all, or add in a permanent ignore feature so you don't 'unignore' a player once you or they log off.

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hehe ya i guess i read that first part wrong in haste. sorray guv'nah~(read with a bad english accent)

it certainly is a good idea to kill afk people rather than jailing, glad you thought of it,, and im glad i seconded the motion

Gm's and Zer:

consider this post so we can stop bitchin about changes that need to be made. your cooperation would be greatly appreciated by all~

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Sykes wrote:

Also something does need to be done about the BRs, if you kill them on pp em, they harrass you constantly about it. This is most BRs not all

I bet you I could out harrass any 'br' that tries to harrass me...

I don't question my sexuality, my sexuality questions me.
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Goddamnit Greg! You do know that the ''.'' button is RIGHT or LEFT next to the'','' button right? GOD!
And also..
http://th07.deviantart.net/fs70/150/f/2010/305/d/f/viva_la_revolucion_by_seridio_red-d31yvar.jpg

I'm just throwing it in the group.

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Grammar nazi!


http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa358/gregp52/godwins-law.jpg

Last edited by Slayer1 (August 6th, 2011 10:49 AM)

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That link is a
http://wiep.net/images/fail.jpg

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i dunno, i thought it was funny. lol

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The link isnt working tongue

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ghey,, why did it show up on my end? lol,, lemme fix that

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Okay, this is the first game, in the history of online mmo's that a fucking MACRO, has a download link on the home page, and then you guys turn around and say macroing is illegal, and you get jailed for 50000 hours for leaving your shit on to get a drink. fuck, i got jailed for making 2k silver ingots with my bsmithing in the 90s, getting no experience. and no growth of my character in any way shape or form. for 500 days, this is why i quit when i did.

You dont want people to macro, dont have a macro on the home page.
you dont want people to AFK Macro, maybe you shouldnt of let players reach level 1k.
All work by the players now seems to be for nothign, as people have 30m in their bank, all the items there is, and 1000 levels under their belts.
Wipe the Game, get it over with. its really the only hope it has, and yes i know the fucking new client new client ... 8 years later ... its not here, fucking do it, do it on thsi client, yes, people will lose REAL money, fuck it who cares, it states in tos not to fucking purchase items from players anyway does it not? and is in no way encouraged by staff of the faldon community.
Just do it and get it done.
Thats my rant.

Last edited by Kr0nic (August 22nd, 2011 1:36 PM)

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so lets bring this post back into play,, STOP FUCKING JAILING YOUR CITIZENS AND PEASANTS YOU ASSHOLES.
Kill them or boot them.

Do you want people to log on here?

YES    or     NO

Circle 1 .....

People have dedicated their time to this sub-par game.
moderators/gm's do what theyre told, they log on jail people,, and leave...
they continue this retarded action because they think they might lose their Status if they dont
They act like cops in the real world,, they have to keep up a QUOTA of arrests, or they lose their job. SHeep i tell you, Sheep. Why are you guys so focused on punishing people who actually log on to this game stilll?
CHILL THE FUCK OUT and let people enjoy the game in their own way, or i'm sure they will eventually get tired of it and find a game where the Controllers arent so strictly dickly.

Doing what you're told doesnt mean doing what you do is right or cool, it fucks over people who pay $$$ and actually spend their unused time in this game. It's a huge turn-off.
Like havin a gf that constantly whines and moans and bitches about everythign you DONT do, completely ignoring what you DO do...
yes i said do0do0,
cause its a bunch of bullshit. eventually,, we'll find new pussy when we get tired of the raggin

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lol ive been sayin thsi for years, fuckin stop jailing the only 5 people you have playing because its not good for business, look how many players youve made quit over the years and just laugh because oh its only 1 person, well add them all up, there was a time when over 100 people played, and you guys ruined it, before GMs were around the game flourished. You guys started making gms and ms an important thing and forgot about the fun, the game has died with your unwise actions. i know im not the only one that thinks this way.

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How many people have quit because they couldn't compete with the half of the player base who had a competitive advantage as a result of cheating?  I'd wager that it's more than the number of people who have quit because they got jailed for cheating.

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Mumblee wrote:

How many people have quit because they couldn't compete with the half of the player base who had a competitive advantage as a result of cheating?  I'd wager that it's more than the number of people who have quit because they got jailed for cheating.

Even if this were to be true mumblee, getting rid of cheating after there are already several 700+ characters, fuck even 500+ is amazing would leave numerous amounts of players with no chance to catch up, no advantage, they will always be the under dog. that is why a wipe is needed.

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