Tareim -- I'm out (Page 3 of 5)

ok mr univers, uve had ur shinning momment, now get ur head out of ur ass, and back to planet earth.
how are we not qualified to make statements either u did or did not make a good work as a gm. we are the players, we are the one who has 2 suffer for ur mistakes.
if anyone is qualified to apply jugdements upon ur actions its us, so just cut that harvard attitude and face the truth.

UNLIKE YOU THO, spy has managed to improve the game, since spy was given  gm the player counts has only went up, we went from a rougly 10 crowd to 50, now i understand theres various reasons this could have happened, but old players come back and see if anything has changed, if its worth starting back, and apparently it was, so he must have done some sort of good work. (of course theres other gms working on the game such as julie and wu, but spy has been workin more intense then both of em)
as for not helping him out, do u believe it would be more helpful for us to just let u attack him with ur childish unknowing statements about him? u were not around when he were made gm nor m, how can you even jugde him?
unlike you he has supportive players, i havent seen anyone stand up for u yet, which gets me down to 1 conclusion.
you sucked as a gm.

1. how are you so certain i wasent? ur the guy who planted the apple trees on map7 , great job, i bet that looks good on the cv. and the rubbish hsbSAGASKmNAY on the client name, great job on that 2.

2. the only legacy ur known by is whinning, even after u quit for years ur still whinning about about someone has been promoted GM, i think ur just shitload mad u lost ur GM.
apparently ur the fuckin thickheaded here, they wouldnt have promoted him to gm if he was still a cheater, if u were around u would know what had been done and the details about the case, but u werent so shut ur mouth.

3. what kind of policy do u then suggest they follow to pick m/gms? u seriously think if a guy makes a mistake once, he should be dealt with it the rest of hes life with no chance ever 2 make up for it. id like 2 see the day u get kids, ur going 2 murder em b4 they hit 15

4. innocent til otherwise is proven, right?

for the record ur a fuckin whiner, u whine more bout faldon then anyone else and u dont even play.
i guess when all comes down to it, ur cut that u were taken away powers and now someone with a bad history has been granted powers.
must really have hurt ur ego, sucks it didnt hurt enough for u to /wrist tho

wow u think alot of shit bout urself considering u got nothing to back it up.
you dont think logical or make good arguements about ur point of view, what u do is try to make urself look smarter by bad mouthing the other person.
1 thing u were right about, u are old fashioned, u think in boxes, u do not take critism, u just get offended and trash the person, if they do not share the same opinions as u, and if they keep going, fghting for their beliefs , they get told they are of boundless intellect or makin insane facts up.

you didnt turn out to be the loser tho, you won the prize of being a faggot with god complexs.. oh right thats the same as being a loser, my bad.

but even tho as promising as ur last mssg may sound, i do not believe this is the last ill hear from u, u have 2 much of an ego and god complex to let this go. but feel free to prove me wrong.

Arguments regarding Faldon culture and structure, well,  that turn into personel assaults are tiresome.

Let's chalk it up to, you two not knowing each other at all. I happen to know both of you as my "tenure" as it were at some point overlapped both yours. Conveying opinion over the internet and in text is always a dangerous process as any forum member knows.

I also happen to know that it is unbecoming for both of you to continue with this in these forums or in general. Nothing will be resolved in the end, more so attention for the need to trivialize the process created by a game that has been on its last legs for years now.

Faldon fell many years ago. I can't give you a date. I came back not expecting a lot, what I found were a lot of people out for themselves while finding not a one I could trust. Maybe it's me, but I don't see the appeal in a game where you can't trust anyone. For those of you that say you can't trust anyone in faldon and never could. I've known a guy named Aaron from Australia through many of his relationships and mine, we have both seen each others kids grow and heard of the bad days and the good. Jared, many of you know as <insertname>, or scOOby is also one I could trust with my account without thought and always have been able to. So please don't question the morals of the game as a whole when replying as I know you will.

I guess my point being, the relevance of your argument is null as this game has about has much faith combined as a catholic priest speaking of honesty, or the US government speaking of peace.

Returning to my original point. STFU give each other a big ole hug and let's continue on. We will all be worm food one day, don't lie on your deathbed remember this forum post as minutes and hours of your life wasted. Get out, drink beer, meet people instead. This pearl of advice coming from someone that spent far to much time online, all the same.

Couple comments:

1) Mumblee, I would like to state that like many of the people here, I was not around during your time. When I returned to Faldon, you were inactive. While I was a GM however, you did make a return. At this time I felt that you came around for praise and that all you did was events. I am not saying this to argue, telling you what I had felt. I often received complaints that you would jail people for disobeying in an event, I felt this was unfair. This is where I clashed with you, as far as saying you've done nothing for the game, I will not.

2) This leads to another reason I highly disapprove of Spy as a GM. All he seems to care about is events. Events are great and all, but Faldon has turned into nothing more than a big event. Everyone just wants to be around for their free items. I think this is a horrible idea, always have. This isn't what Faldon should be or ever was about (I played MANY of years ago...) He has taken it so far that events are not even a random GM thing, it's a daily thing... I find this to be harmful to the game, and adds to the reason why all of you like him so much more. He has a purpose of pleasing you all, and that's not what a GMs job is. Not that way, not at all.

3) The whole thing about the policy you all speak of, should be dropped. This is not a GM policy, this is something Zammbi wanted to post. It was him and only him, and the reason he did it is because it got people off his back about why certain people were made to be certain positions.

4) I do believe people can learn but I don't believe that people change for no reason. Also, I find it hard to believe that someone with such loose morals could go from stealing from people to someone that wouldn't even abuse a digital system at nobodies direct expense. As Mumblee said, we've had GM/Ms that wouldn't directly harm anyone that have abused the system, why should we not fear what could happen with Spy? If he has truly changed, then I can only wonder, what significant thing happened in his life that allowed him to learn?

I hate to do this beings that everyone will talk shit after my comment but the almighty LOTHAR is right, spys making even the shittiest of players RICK FILTHY RICH no items are rare, and honestly the 1 char whose got the Rarest items is spys lil spawn Cazit, < nothing against u caz but you and judy are the only 2 with plagues, and i imagine keith lol< noone else looks deep into this but you all are tied into a GM as ur friend somehow some way, events have made kids i seen 1 yr ago with CM and old boots running around with multiple skullblades and SOVS< speaking of sovs 1 of the newest items in game and already is less rare then some items that were here when i started over 3 yrs ago, someone look into this ignorance thanks, LOVE the greediest motha fucka on faldon! .....now you can all comment bash me but before you do look at the facts, faggots

Tareim

You're somewhat right, I did make events but what I don't understand is why you never said anything about it if you disagreed so much.
It's not like I did those events all on my own, I coded them yes, but they were discussed on the forum and with other GMs on Faldon, if you would have given your input it would have been taken into consideration.
And it's not like I only make events, I have done other things aswell.

Imwhite

It's not like there's dozens of pairs of sovereign boots out there, it's probably more like five orso max. And if I hadn't made any event there would be 0.
The fact that Judy and Cazit have plague boots doesn't have anything to do with me being their friend. There's plenty of other players I'm friendly with who didn't get anything during the events.

Anyway,
I'm trying my best to help Faldon and I'll accept constructive criticism.
So if that means my events etc are too big or whatever then I will stop or change the way they work.

Last edited by Mr Spy (December 15th, 2009 8:11 AM)

In terms of policy, I was somewhere in between you two. 

On the one hand, like Spy I was promoted to Gm in large part to provide engaging content for the players (while still retaining my Moderator duties), which included an even mix of events and the map/NPCs/quests I was working on.  I don't agree that Gms should be invisible entities.  Faldon is a small community where everybody knows everybody else, and since there is no dedicated content development team, the duty falls on the Gms to keep things fresh.

On the other hand, however, I sure as hell wasn't giving away super-rare items, and it would have looked super suspicious if the people I ran with were gaining an advantage from my events.  It's not the Gm's place to screw up the game's economy by handing out unique items like they're candy.

My advice to you, Spy, would be this:  People should be participating in your events because they are fun, not because of any potential prize they are winning.  Most of my events could have been run without any Gm capabilities (or minimally, the ability to warp), and if there were prizes they were trivial (a trophy with no actual usage).  People will participate in events like trivia, hide-and-seek, special-rules tournaments, etc, simply because it's something new and interesting to do other than levelling.

Nice rigorous proof of your claims of a statistically significant causal relationship, Ra.

I want to make clear though, that my events were automated such as last Easter event for example.
Players had to go in a special maze and hunt rabbits who dropped easter eggs.
Once the player had 50 easter eggs he could hand em over to the easter bunny for a random reward (small chance for Cs of getting an item, rest was gold).
This could be done once per account per Faldon day while the event was up.

There's no way I could have influenced who got what in these events as it was all random.

I guess I'll focus more on the 'fun' factor to motivate people. Although it is really hard to get people to join in on a hide n seek if the reward isn't all that useful.

Last edited by Mr Spy (December 16th, 2009 3:21 AM)

1) Sure is.  2) I wasn't trying to talk circles around you.  Those are the basic terms used in data analysis.  You made a claim that A causes B, and I was sarcastically pointing out that there's no way you can prove that.  3) You're probably right.  It's nice to check it once a day, though, because it makes me feel good knowing that other people (like Mister Rob, per post #72) are so much more ignorant than I am.

Last edited by Mumblee (December 16th, 2009 5:27 PM)