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Topic: Tareim -- I'm out

Hello everyone, the time has come for me to leave Faldon. I have done nothing but put time and money into this game since the start. I have never scammed a player, nor abused my GM powers. Any and all of you that know me, know this is true. Some people among us do not hold such standards, nor do they care if eachother do. Mr S.p.y. worked to scam people, key-log them, and take what they rightfully earned. It is my belief that a player that has scammed for their own benefit would without a doubt use their GM powers to benefit themselves when able to do so without causing another person harm.

I brought up my concerns and nobody listened. I spoke to him as an M when he began to create scripts to his own benefit, nobody cared. I spoke to him when he made events which allowed him to horde items. I asked him not to have the scripts award to Ms and GMs. After warning other GMs about this, nobody cared. He continued to do these things which I believe to be harmful to the game. More events which again gave out items which Ms and GMs could take.

Various players have mentioned to me since this time that they have seen Mr. S.p.y. selling items for USD. Items which he gained through these events which I warned about. Again, as the pattern seems to go, nobody cared. The only response I have received through any of this is the attacks which many of you have heard.

Anyway, I will no longer be a part of any of this. I would much prefer step away than watch all of this happen. I will be removing  all items, skills, and spells that have been attributed to my character as well as Syrinadra's. I will walk away from this game clean, and let all the corruption be.

To anyone that can be considered 'management,' within this game, I have enjoyed all my work here. I am not trying to cause any problems, I simply will not be a part of the corruption. And I will not sit by and watch as all of this goes on while I am in no position to stop it. Should a new client ever come about and should any help be needed with coders or otherwise, I will always be around.

Visualcode@Visualcode.org

Good luck to Faldon.

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Good luck with the pregnacy and all the rest that comes on your path.   big_smile

Oh I gotta say.. thanks for letting us know that you wont be on anymore.. better than just leaving and never say anything anymore.

and fyi, rick is always joking about selling stuff for usd.. he only sells the stuff he got when he was a mortal, ill gotten maybe..

but hey, it seems you dont have to ability to see people can change.

Last edited by Mister Rob (November 23rd, 2009 7:10 AM)

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about time your worthless corrupt rear end was gone from the game.   you have done more to kill this game then anyone else I have seen in all my years.    from selling resets and pocketing the cash to making gm spells for your friends.         When you saw someone better legit then you could with your hacks   you would non stop harrass them.     Hope you drop dead scum.

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I will not sit here and argue the same points, however I will clarify this once:

A) Zer was aware that I was doing stat resets, as was Coma, the only thing I was asked to not sell was spell transfers, which I stopped as soon as asked.

B) Stat-reset sells totalled less than I spent to run a website for all of you Faldon players.

C) I told Spectre and Julie both as I made Syrinadra. Her character had one purpose, and that was to let me have more time on the game. She had many rules, she didn't camp spawns, steal spawns, use spawns, level, none of it. She wasn't allowed. She sat in town.

Mister Rob:

I don't feel someone that would STEAL from a person would change so much that they wouldn't steal from a system that can just create things. Perhaps I am wrong, but that is how I feel. And a GM shouldn't sell anything, whether gained before or after, how do we know such items were gained at these times?

Anyway, thanks for at least being polite in your response.

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Mr Spy here...

Yes, I do have a history. I keylogged many people, cheated lots, made and spread tools to help others cheat.
Plenty of reasons to be concerned indeed, but unlike you I do think people can change.

Reasons for other GMs to ignore your concerns can only really be one of two things;
-they either don't care about Faldon,
-or, the concerns, could be unfounded.

I did not create scripts for my own benefit, sure I made some 'fun' scripts but who cares, are we not allowed to have some fun while working on Faldon?

And as Rob said, I am only joking when I say I'm selling stuff for USD. I guess not all players realize that.

I think it was out of place to call me corrupt, you were hardly on and never really talked to me to verify any of what you've just said.
Why would I be investing time in Faldon by making quests etc if I'm corrupt and bound to get de-GM-ed anyway?

One thing I would like to know is why you posted those GM logs, on a different account, of something that happened years ago and is pretty much public knowledge? Did you just want to make sure people didn't forget?

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Spy,

First, I brought this all to their attention at the very beginning and I was told I had no proof, that's my proof. So while many may know, it is my assumption that those who put you in power were unaware.

Second, I did talk to you. First, I told you about how my script was modified. It was modified by you, through another GM. You left a comment saying that you edited it to make it so you could access map 3. The change you made did NOT do that, instead it made your pets nearly invincible. Honest mistake? I think not, you know the system better than that.

Second came the event you made. I changed it to not award Ms/GMs things. I talked to you and explained why we shouldn't be doing that, and changed it to announce rather than give, which for testing purposes is just as good. After this, you did a new event, one that again gave you items. Items which again I heard complaints about you selling.

Third, Ms were not supposed to have execs because Zer felt it was too much power. He added mexec because over the years we had continued to complain that they needed it for some things. You abused this by taking advantage of the situation and uploading your OWN mexecs. Mexecs if to exist should be made by GMs and have M-only purposes. Again, I talked to you about this.

You continued to ignore my requests. I was not initially entirely against you. I had my doubts, and I did confront you. Yet, you ignored each request. I took your right to get items, and you used another GM to get the right back via the disguise of an event. Why should I trust you after your past, the current complaints, and after the examples I just gave of things since you have been an M or GM?

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Everyone was very aware of my past, they, however, decided to give me a chance.

"First, I told you about how my script was modified. It was modified by you, through another GM. You left a comment saying that you edited it to make it so you could access map 3. The change you made did NOT do that, instead it made your pets nearly invincible. Honest mistake? I think not, you know the system better than that."
I can see how this seems very unlikely and I can't really think of a way to convince you here, but look at this from this side.
Why would I leave a comment with my name if my intent was malicious?
What could I possibly gain from having immortal pets?
Julie and Wu barely check my scripts, if I wanted to I could pretty much get them to upload anything, things way more malicious than immortal pets.

"I changed it to not award Ms/GMs things."
That you did do, but you didn't talk to me about it, you talked to Julie who later told me you had changed some of my scripts.

"Items which again I heard complaints about you selling."
Complaints from who, the players?

And you're right about the mexec's, they should be used for moderator things only. However, I was sort of made M as a trial to help with coding which meant that I needed to be able to have some exec's but seeing as I was M I was forced to use the mexec's.

"I took your right to get items"
In what form did you make that clear to me?

"disguise of an event"
Do you really think I made all the things I made just for my own personal gain?

"Why should I trust you after your past, the current complaints, and after the examples I just gave of things since you have been an M or GM?"
All you see is the possible abuse, you ignore everything else.

Anyway, I don't think there's any point in discussing this further, you have made up your mind and don't trust me.

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The only thing I'm going to say is that I disagree with your comments about "nobody cared".  To say that nobody cared, to me, implies complicity.  No one was complicit.

Stepping back to the beginning when Spy was first made an M, you made quite a few comments that you were against it.  I cannot remember right now exactly what all you said.  However, the only thing I remember you saying was that you were against Spy being an M because of the scamming he did.  Was the scamming right?  Of course not.  However, people can and do change.  That change can be for the better or the worse, but change they can.  A hardcore criminal can "see the light" and become a minister.  A good family man can snap and kill his wife and kids.  People are not set in stone.  There are always factors that can cause a person to change: maturity, environment, and many other things.  Does that mean I would let a convicted rapist babysit my kids [if I had any]?  Hell no!  But, being that Faldon is just a game and the true damage minimal, we [and it was Julie, Matt, and myself who discussed it] decided that there was low risk to allowing Spy to be an M.  We decided it was safe to give the guy a chance - he's a talented programmer and could be beneficial to the game.

Moving forward, there were many comments by you against Spy's integrity.  You've laid out a few here.  I was not really involved directly in any of that that I recall.  For example, the script changing and script uploading.  And any that I heard was only second-hand.

Finally, the point at hand - selling items.  Two weeks ago you messaged me briefly saying that you had heard Spy was selling items.  I asked you if you had any proof, to which you replied that you did not.  We kind of left it at that, and that you would look into it.  That was the last time you talked to me... about anything, for that matter.  Therefore, I would not agree that "no one cared".  It's not that no one cared, but that you never presented any evidence.  Rumors from players and gut feelings don't prove anything.  If you would have brought proof, then I certainly would have done something.

Anyhow, I'm not trying to belabor the issue.  I just want to make clear that it was not complicity or apathy on the part of the others that nothing was done.  Rather that there was just no evidence.

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Can't go back in time but.. Lothar should have never been made a GM. That's what I've to say on the matter, goodbye.

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Lothar wrote:

"I changed it to not award Ms/GMs things."

demon wizzzz wrote:

That you did do, but you didn't talk to me about it, you talked to Julie who later told me you had changed some of my scripts.

This can't be more true. I was on at the time you did it with the Pit Quest.. Rick wasnt online when you did that.. He came back and was like wtf and had to be told by us what you did.

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Mister Rob,

You are not very helpful to the situation. I mean, whether I told him or not, he knew kit was done, and I'm pretty sure he knew why. Anyway, he was like "WTF?" Why was he so upset by it?

Look I may be wrong, may be right, but either way, I have seen enough go on to where my trust is very little for him.

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Well I mean he got caught off guard, and I think this is going to get a bit off topic, we're here to say farewell to a GM.

I had a little question tho, whats going to happen to faldon.org .. i dont want to see that information going away..

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Feels pretty crappy to be on the other side of it, doesn't it Lothar?  The difference is, when I raised concerns about your actions when you were a fledgling Gm, you buddied up to Zer and Coma and got me kicked out of my position for no reason.  At least you get the chance to leave of your own free will.

For what it's worth, though, I absolutely agree with you that given the history of Gm corruption, and given what this guy seemed to be doing as an M, I would not have given him more power.

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I'm wondering when the other GM's are gonna orgy up this topic  lol

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Quite frankly I agree with Tim Rick is a wanker and somebody who should never have been made a M let alone GM the guy is corrupt he favours the ones who suck his dick all the time, you only bitch about Tim cause he punishes when you deserve it he banned me when I was abusing teleport to zhack I didn't find it fair at first but it's what I deserved so I'm with Tim all the way, as for Rick he is a useless dutch fucktard who deserves nothing from this game the only person we can really blame is Aaron and this is something I don't like saying because I like Aaron but to make Rick M from the start was no doubt gonna cause trouble therefore I am gone untill something is done about this!

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Mister Rob:

Just so you, and others know:

I will be keeping my website up at least for now. Also, you are more than welcome to e-mail me or anything should my databases become outdated. I will gladly keep them updated. In addition, if changes to any of my programs are requested, I will more than likely be willing to take a look at those as well.

I am not leaving Faldon because I hate it or any of that, I just don't feel that it's going the right direction right now, and I'd prefer to step back for it. I've done what I could to try and help out all the players that kept coming to me about the things going on... And now I simply get frustrated not being able to do anything. Having to keep telling them all that there isn't too much I can do, and that I will try...

Anyway, in short: I will have the site up.

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And with that Tim said so long motherlickers! Fired up the bong and smoked some weed, and after throughly enjoying it. He got up high as hell said 'cya l8rs nubs!' and ran away to Neverland. The End. Good story eh? Well we should seriously all say this, "Bye Tim maybe it's better you leave. Who knows? Well cya and good luck with your real life!" and then get on faldon and rape some n00bs like Diablo7 Lol

Last edited by King Faldon (November 24th, 2009 10:50 PM)

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Mumblee wrote:

given what this guy seemed to be doing as an M, I would not have given him more power.

You're just basing that on Tim's perspective of things, and indeed, that does make me look bad but if you knew me any better you would know there'd be nothing to worry about.

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I love drama.. Oh god I love drama!

I don't question my sexuality, my sexuality questions me.
Self Gratification is God's greatest gift to man.
Single Male looking for a Female... My standards are 8 to 80, blind crippled or crazy... occasionally fat and lazy...

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Yes Fireborn! DRAMA I HUNGRY!

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Ya, Mumblee... Rick is just as cute and furry as a 8 week old kitty cat! lol

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LOL Rob. Good analogy. I'll be on in 3 hours or less.

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demon wizzzz wrote:
Mumblee wrote:

given what this guy seemed to be doing as an M, I would not have given him more power.

You're just basing that on Tim's perspective of things, and indeed, that does make me look bad but if you knew me any better you would know there'd be nothing to worry about.

Seems to me that Tim's logs of you admitting to keylogging people isn't really his "perspective" so much as it is "evidence".

If you're willing to break the law and commit a crime just to advance yourself in an online video game, then why should anyone believe that you wouldn't abuse the special powers granted to you as a Gm?

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"given what this guy seemed to be doing as an M, I would not have given him more power."
Just to be clear, those logs are old, I did not keylog anyone while I was M/GM.

I was refering to the fact that Tim accused me of making events as a cover for me to get items which I then supposedly sold for USD. That's the 'perspective' I was talking about.
You can be suspicous of my past as it's a well known fact that I wasn't too nice back then but you cannot judge me about the things I've done as M/GM.

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But you did keylog people at some point?  You did give malicious code to unsuspecting people in order to steal what was rightfully theirs?  You're right, you sound like a super classy dude.