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Hey! I just wondered how i can make my own faldon server. Is it hard to make one or can Zer send me some files from the real server but a copy of it? I hope any1 will help me to make my own server and do it for me or send the files.
Thanks for reading this post 
Hey! I just wondered how i can make my own faldon server. Is it hard to make one or can Zer send me some files from the real server but a copy of it? I hope any1 will help me to make my own server and do it for me or send the files.
Thanks for reading this post
You've already failed. Your post significantly demonstrates your lack of technical and mental capabilities in regards to the logical course of actions required to create, maintain and provide your own server; let alone your lack of English. Mentally, your predisposition as a retard will prevent you from succeeding in life; nobody is going to hand you server files when you most likely have trouble wiping your own ass after you shit. Technically, the fact that you had to create such an outstandingly retarded (see previous comment about mental capacity) post shows you lack the technical skills; what it would take to manage your own server if the binaries were placed upon your lap, let alone create your own from scratch!
In the fun spirit and humour that is Faldon, I shall provide you with the basic (extreme high-level overview) steps.
1. Forget about anyone handing you the binaries.
2. Learn to write in a programming language, like Java. (Unlikely, but lets continue).
3. Understand the OSI model, the application of its layers, and what a packet is.
4. Fuck it, I'm bored now. Fuck off.
You'll never be able to create your own server; while possible, it will require networking knowledge, programming skills above your mental capabilities, significant amount of time and dedication, and a lot of fucking yourself in the ass with a pencil.
Angeldust,
Last edited by Angeldust (September 5th, 2012 12:52 PM)
Hes basically asking somebody to revese engineer the client to see what has to be made in order to make an operational "clone server" of faldon while still using the current client and connecting to that clone server via a method similar to that of connecting to the test server. I tried explaining this to him in game. Nobody will do that for you and zer wouldnt even sell the server let alone hand it out 
Hes basically asking somebody to revese engineer the client to see what has to be made in order to make an operational "clone server" of faldon while still using the current client and connecting to that clone server via a method similar to that of connecting to the test server. I tried explaining this to him in game. Nobody will do that for you and zer wouldnt even sell the server let alone hand it out
Yes, I know exactly what he's asking, which was the way I responded in the manner that I did. Reverse engineering the client will only get you 20% of what you need. You'll only be able to determine what packets the client sends, and in some cases, the expected response. The rest will come from packet sniffing, interpretation of the data based on responses, and reverse engineering algorithms based on sample datasets; algorithms for things like damage, resist, skill level increases, failure rates, success rates, ect. There will be much more required server side obviously, to be able to create a fully functional server such as, maps, mobs, AI, ect. Many private servers are created with JAVA. Either way, above and beyond anyone that has to ask such a silly question.
Angeldust,
The fact that the guy is ignorant of the effort that goes in to running a server doesn't speak to his intelligence, nor does it in any way grant you insight into how his life is going to turn out. If it helps you therapeutically in some way to belittle teenagers asking innocent questions, Angeldust, by all means carry on; otherwise, how about you find something better to do than being a dick to children on message boards?
The thing that bugs me about this is that his request isn't even that ridiculous. The fact that there are other games similar to Faldon that do package their server software for redistribution makes the guy's request have some degree of legitimacy. In fact, as a 15 year old with virtually no technical know-how, I remember running a private shard for Ultima Online (the game that was probably the biggest influence on what Faldon is today) on a Windows 98 machine.
But maybe you didn't know that private server software was a thing that existed in other similar RPGs, Angeldust. In fact I'd go so far as to say: 'your post significantly demonstrates your lack of technical and mental capabilities in regards to the logical course of actions required to create, maintain and provide your own server;'. Have fun being ignorant AND a hypocrite.
And Aeglaeca, to answer your question directly:
No, Zer has repeatedly stated that he has no desire to distribute his server code, even to people willing to pay for it.
The fact that the guy is ignorant of the effort that goes in to running a server doesn't speak to his intelligence, nor does it in any way grant you insight into how his life is going to turn out. If it helps you therapeutically in some way to belittle teenagers asking innocent questions, Angeldust, by all means carry on; otherwise, how about you find something better to do than being a dick to children on message boards?
The thing that bugs me about this is that his request isn't even that ridiculous. The fact that there are other games similar to Faldon that do package their server software for redistribution makes the guy's request have some degree of legitimacy. In fact, as a 15 year old with virtually no technical know-how, I remember running a private shard for Ultima Online (the game that was probably the biggest influence on what Faldon is today) on a Windows 98 machine.
But maybe you didn't know that private server software was a thing that existed in other similar RPGs, Angeldust. In fact I'd go so far as to say: 'your post significantly demonstrates your lack of technical and mental capabilities in regards to the logical course of actions required to create, maintain and provide your own server;'. Have fun being ignorant AND a hypocrite.
Mumbnutts,
It would be discrimination against the youth if I only tore apart unintelligent forum posts belonging to adults. I am not against teenagers, nor do I expect that their intelligence is diminished in anyway because of their young age. In fact, the youth born in our categorical Generation Y and Generation Z population (the age of the "Net Generation") have significantly higher technological expectations; children born and raised with technology have far superior technical skills than their previous generation parents.
That aside, lets discuss logically your response in comparison to the original post.
Your comment: The fact that the guy is ignorant of the effort that goes in to running a server doesn't speak to his intelligence. Mumblenutts, my response was directed at the request for assistance in creating his own server. Read his original post, you'll understand his ignorance. His comment: I just wondered how i can make my own faldon server.
This is further compounded in my favour by his following statement as an alternative solution: Is it hard to make one or can Zer send me some files from the real server but a copy of it?
Result: Your partial idiocy highlights incompetency in literal understanding of the original question.
Your comment: The thing that bugs me about this is that his request isn't even that ridiculous. The fact that there are other games similar to Faldon that do package their server software for redistribution makes the guy's request have some degree of legitimacy. Mumblenutts, as your obviously aware, Faldon does not package server side components with its download. Similarity is often a fallacy and most definitely an invalid argument. This person also did not inquire on how to use pre packaged software to create a server; his request was to make a server or have someone make it for them. This comment is in relation to my previous statement. "I hope any1 will help me to make my own server and do it for me".
Result: Your argument is invalid, its basis was on factitious comments.
Your comment: But maybe you didn't know that private server software was a thing that existed in other similar RPGs, Angeldust. In fact I'd go so far as to say: 'your post significantly demonstrates your lack of technical and mental capabilities in regards to the logical course of actions required to create, maintain and provide your own server;'. Have fun being ignorant AND a hypocrite. Again, this discussion was not based around the idea of private server software. The presumed teenager requested assistance in creating a server from scratch, or having the server software handed to him (not the actual server, but a copy of the files) as an alternative. I harassed him on the manner of asking, and displayed idiocy in assuming he can create his own server from scratch without the basis of knowledge and/or the assumption someone out there may do it for him.
Result: You failed to understand the original request.
Your comment: Angeldust, by all means carry on; otherwise, how about you find something better to do than being a dick to children on message boards? Mumblenutts, you criticize me for making logical assumptions and/or being a hypocrite yet you presume this poster is a child. You have no concrete basis for this assumption. Regardless of his age, I do not discriminate in who I harass. That would be rude.
Result: Dumbass.
In conclusion, the moron asked for help in creating his own server software from scratch without any technological understanding and/or research into this idea. An intelligent person would research prior to making a incredulous request. Critical thinking, a particulate mindset is indicative of a higher intelligence; as is the ability to properly research for a general understanding in any area of demonstrated interest. This poster showed little intelligence and in fact, quite oppositely showed below average thought processing. The 'child', as you assumed showed significant ignorance in his post, asking for 'someone' to help him make his own server, do it for him, or have Zer hand him a 'copy of' the server files.
Please, carry on as if you were normal.
Thanks,
Angeldust,
engineering algorithms based on sample datasets; algorithms for things like damage, resist, skill level increases, failure rates, success rates, ect. There will be much more required server side obviously, to be able to create a fully functional server such as, maps, mobs, AI, ect.
Hello Angeldust|
I know you've checked, double checked, triple checked your manifests. But.. 
ECT stands for electro convulsive therapy, sometimes used for severe depression.
ETC stands for Et Cetera.
I carried on. 
Or...
Automotive
Electronically controlled transmission, found in premium automobiles
Engine coolant temperature
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Eddy-current testing, a nondestructive testing technique for metal objects
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Electrochemotherapy a therapeutic approach providing delivery into cell interior of nonpermeant drugs with intracellular targets
Electroconvulsive therapy, also known as electroshock therapy, a medical treatment
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Ealing Community Transport, a social enterprise in England
Eau Claire Transit, the transit in Eau Claire, Wisconsin
(Empresa Brasileira de Correios e Telégrafos) Correios, the Brazilian postal service and postal administration
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Einstein-Cartan theory, an extension of the theory of General Relativity
Emission Computed Tomography, see Single Photon Emission Computed Tomography
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Eastern Caribbean Time zone
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Not to be confused with Et Cetera!
Last edited by Mister Rob (October 2nd, 2012 6:10 AM)
Hey! I just wondered how i can make my own faldon server. Is it hard to make one or can Zer send me some files from the real server but a copy of it? I hope any1 will help me to make my own server and do it for me or send the files.
Thanks for reading this post
Pay Akonite (orig) some dollars and he'll do it for you though
Angeldust wrote:engineering algorithms based on sample datasets; algorithms for things like damage, resist, skill level increases, failure rates, success rates, ect. There will be much more required server side obviously, to be able to create a fully functional server such as, maps, mobs, AI, ect.
Hello Angeldust|
I know you've checked, double checked, triple checked your manifests. But..
ECT stands for electro convulsive therapy, sometimes used for severe depression.
ETC stands for Et Cetera.I carried on.
Awesome, that's what I get for not double checking my manifests. I just let the spell checker automatically highlight typos, correct and reply. Well done, lol.
Angeldust,
Mumblee wrote:The fact that the guy is ignorant of the effort that goes in to running a server doesn't speak to his intelligence, nor does it in any way grant you insight into how his life is going to turn out. If it helps you therapeutically in some way to belittle teenagers asking innocent questions, Angeldust, by all means carry on; otherwise, how about you find something better to do than being a dick to children on message boards?
The thing that bugs me about this is that his request isn't even that ridiculous. The fact that there are other games similar to Faldon that do package their server software for redistribution makes the guy's request have some degree of legitimacy. In fact, as a 15 year old with virtually no technical know-how, I remember running a private shard for Ultima Online (the game that was probably the biggest influence on what Faldon is today) on a Windows 98 machine.
But maybe you didn't know that private server software was a thing that existed in other similar RPGs, Angeldust. In fact I'd go so far as to say: 'your post significantly demonstrates your lack of technical and mental capabilities in regards to the logical course of actions required to create, maintain and provide your own server;'. Have fun being ignorant AND a hypocrite.
Mumbnutts,
It would be discrimination against the youth if I only tore apart unintelligent forum posts belonging to adults. I am not against teenagers, nor do I expect that their intelligence is diminished in anyway because of their young age. In fact, the youth born in our categorical Generation Y and Generation Z population (the age of the "Net Generation") have significantly higher technological expectations; children born and raised with technology have far superior technical skills than their previous generation parents.
That aside, lets discuss logically your response in comparison to the original post.
Your comment: The fact that the guy is ignorant of the effort that goes in to running a server doesn't speak to his intelligence. Mumblenutts, my response was directed at the request for assistance in creating his own server. Read his original post, you'll understand his ignorance. His comment: I just wondered how i can make my own faldon server.
This is further compounded in my favour by his following statement as an alternative solution: Is it hard to make one or can Zer send me some files from the real server but a copy of it?Result: Your partial idiocy highlights incompetency in literal understanding of the original question.
Your comment: The thing that bugs me about this is that his request isn't even that ridiculous. The fact that there are other games similar to Faldon that do package their server software for redistribution makes the guy's request have some degree of legitimacy. Mumblenutts, as your obviously aware, Faldon does not package server side components with its download. Similarity is often a fallacy and most definitely an invalid argument. This person also did not inquire on how to use pre packaged software to create a server; his request was to make a server or have someone make it for them. This comment is in relation to my previous statement. "I hope any1 will help me to make my own server and do it for me".
Result: Your argument is invalid, its basis was on factitious comments.
Your comment: But maybe you didn't know that private server software was a thing that existed in other similar RPGs, Angeldust. In fact I'd go so far as to say: 'your post significantly demonstrates your lack of technical and mental capabilities in regards to the logical course of actions required to create, maintain and provide your own server;'. Have fun being ignorant AND a hypocrite. Again, this discussion was not based around the idea of private server software. The presumed teenager requested assistance in creating a server from scratch, or having the server software handed to him (not the actual server, but a copy of the files) as an alternative. I harassed him on the manner of asking, and displayed idiocy in assuming he can create his own server from scratch without the basis of knowledge and/or the assumption someone out there may do it for him.
Result: You failed to understand the original request.
Your comment: Angeldust, by all means carry on; otherwise, how about you find something better to do than being a dick to children on message boards? Mumblenutts, you criticize me for making logical assumptions and/or being a hypocrite yet you presume this poster is a child. You have no concrete basis for this assumption. Regardless of his age, I do not discriminate in who I harass. That would be rude.
Result: Dumbass.
In conclusion, the moron asked for help in creating his own server software from scratch without any technological understanding and/or research into this idea. An intelligent person would research prior to making a incredulous request. Critical thinking, a particulate mindset is indicative of a higher intelligence; as is the ability to properly research for a general understanding in any area of demonstrated interest. This poster showed little intelligence and in fact, quite oppositely showed below average thought processing. The 'child', as you assumed showed significant ignorance in his post, asking for 'someone' to help him make his own server, do it for him, or have Zer hand him a 'copy of' the server files.
Please, carry on as if you were normal.
Thanks,
Angeldust,
So... what you're saying is you've never been touched by a girl before?
What- NEVER??
So... what you're saying is you've never been touched by a girl before?
What- NEVER??
At this point, most people would use a conjunction of the words "your" and "mom" in retaliation; an over used and outdated response. However, your premise is wrong calling into question the validity of the argument. Let me tell you, in Singapore they have the most beautiful Asian prostitutes. In Singapore prostitution is monitored and legal; the 'workers' are clean and regularly tested.
Oh, and I guess Ill say that I've had a threesome with your mother and father.
Angeldust,
LMFAO this shit made me laugh soo hard
Meanstreak wrote:So... what you're saying is you've never been touched by a girl before?
What- NEVER??At this point, most people would use a conjunction of the words "your" and "mom" in retaliation; an over used and outdated response. However, your premise is wrong calling into question the validity of the argument. Let me tell you, in Singapore they have the most beautiful Asian prostitutes. In Singapore prostitution is monitored and legal; the 'workers' are clean and regularly tested.
Oh, and I guess Ill say that I've had a threesome with your mother and father.
Angeldust,
I'm really sorry you've never been touched by a girl. 
Angeldust wrote:Meanstreak wrote:So... what you're saying is you've never been touched by a girl before?
What- NEVER??At this point, most people would use a conjunction of the words "your" and "mom" in retaliation; an over used and outdated response. However, your premise is wrong calling into question the validity of the argument. Let me tell you, in Singapore they have the most beautiful Asian prostitutes. In Singapore prostitution is monitored and legal; the 'workers' are clean and regularly tested.
Oh, and I guess Ill say that I've had a threesome with your mother and father.
Angeldust,
I'm really sorry you've never been touched by a girl.
I'm really sorry you've admittedly concluded your mother is not of the female sex.
Angeldust,
Meanstreak wrote:Angeldust wrote:At this point, most people would use a conjunction of the words "your" and "mom" in retaliation; an over used and outdated response. However, your premise is wrong calling into question the validity of the argument. Let me tell you, in Singapore they have the most beautiful Asian prostitutes. In Singapore prostitution is monitored and legal; the 'workers' are clean and regularly tested.
Oh, and I guess Ill say that I've had a threesome with your mother and father.
Angeldust,
I'm really sorry you've never been touched by a girl.
I'm really sorry you've admittedly concluded your mother is not of the female sex.
Angeldust,
Would a slice of cake make you happy again?
Meanstreak wrote:Angeldust wrote:At this point, most people would use a conjunction of the words "your" and "mom" in retaliation; an over used and outdated response. However, your premise is wrong calling into question the validity of the argument. Let me tell you, in Singapore they have the most beautiful Asian prostitutes. In Singapore prostitution is monitored and legal; the 'workers' are clean and regularly tested.
Oh, and I guess Ill say that I've had a threesome with your mother and father.
Angeldust,
I'm really sorry you've never been touched by a girl.
I'm really sorry you've admittedly concluded your mother is not of the female sex.
Angeldust,
Mumblenutts,
Just a reminder that you are a homosexual.
Angeldust,
I was going to go through your argument point-for-point, but it seems that they are all predicated on the same argument, that the guy wanted to build server software from scratch. To back this up, you cite his usage of "how i can make my own faldon server". I think you're reading too much into this, though. I don't know what your nationality is, (I'm guessing somewhere in the crown colonies, based on your use of "favour" over "favor") but in America the phrase "make my own" is used colloquially in a way that doesn't necessarily mean "make from base components".
For example: A person might say "I am going to make macaroni and cheese for dinner". This does not necessarily imply that they are going to roll their own dough, shape it into macaroni, milk a cow, age its milk into cheese for several months, and then shred that cheese in order to make macaroni and cheese. More likely it means they are going to take some pre-compiled components and prepare them in a few easy steps.
Now, you might be saying to yourself "But Mumblenutts, real world analogies don't apply to software, even when we're just arguing about idiomatic use of the English language.", to which I would point out that the term "Make" in software also doesn't mean "write code". In fact, it's generally used to refer to taking existing source code and compiling it into usable software. For further reading, please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_%28software%29.
And you know what - even if the guy was asking what you think he was (which I'm almost sure he was not), there was no reason for you to be a dick to him. His only crime was curiosity. What has he done wrong by asking a question that wasn't even directed at you? You're just choosing to bully him to make yourself feel good.
Mumblee why even argue with the poor guy who's never been touched by a girl. Just laugh at him as nature intended!
Mumblee why even argue with the poor guy who's never been touched by a girl. Just laugh at him as nature intended!
You clearly missed the burn he gave you when you said he had never been touched by a girl..
Meanstreak wrote:Mumblee why even argue with the poor guy who's never been touched by a girl. Just laugh at him as nature intended!
You clearly missed the burn he gave you when you said he had never been touched by a girl..
Nope. He just wants to continue, so let him. He's entertainment. And let's be honest... he's keeping these forums alive
I was going to go through your argument point-for-point, but it seems that they are all predicated on the same argument, that the guy wanted to build server software from scratch. To back this up, you cite his usage of "how i can make my own faldon server". I think you're reading too much into this, though. I don't know what your nationality is, (I'm guessing somewhere in the crown colonies, based on your use of "favour" over "favor") but in America the phrase "make my own" is used colloquially in a way that doesn't necessarily mean "make from base components".
For example: A person might say "I am going to make macaroni and cheese for dinner". This does not necessarily imply that they are going to roll their own dough, shape it into macaroni, milk a cow, age its milk into cheese for several months, and then shred that cheese in order to make macaroni and cheese. More likely it means they are going to take some pre-compiled components and prepare them in a few easy steps.
Now, you might be saying to yourself "But Mumblenutts, real world analogies don't apply to software, even when we're just arguing about idiomatic use of the English language.", to which I would point out that the term "Make" in software also doesn't mean "write code". In fact, it's generally used to refer to taking existing source code and compiling it into usable software. For further reading, please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_%28software%29.
And you know what - even if the guy was asking what you think he was (which I'm almost sure he was not), there was no reason for you to be a dick to him. His only crime was curiosity. What has he done wrong by asking a question that wasn't even directed at you? You're just choosing to bully him to make yourself feel good.
You're assumption pertaining to geographical location is correct; your northerly superior Canada, to be exact. I understand that you do not believe he was intentionally asking to create a server from scratch; however, I believe you're in the wrong.
"Hey! I just wondered how i can make my own Daldon server. Is it hard to make one or can Zer send me some files from the real server but a copy of it?"
He's first inquires on how he could possibly make his own Faldon server. He then inquired if it was hard. He then used an "OR" in conjunction with his predicate alluding to the possibility of having files sent to him that he requires to host a server. Take from his post what you will, but interpret it more this way to understand that he's asking to create from scratch OR have the files sent to him (as you've referred to as the files occasionally bundled with some games). Even with bundled server software, the definition of software server implies a hosted environment; having this bundled software allows you to host an already created server application, you would simply create the content up to, and including scripting, maps, items, ect. The server has already been made, your simply designing and hosting what was already created.
As for bullying, I don't care how old he is; I've already said I do not discriminate based on age. Additionally, I've seen many posts from you over the years that could be considered bullying. How's it any different? Trolling is fun. Trolling is good.
Please continue to respond and encourage this conversation. My cure for boredom is the occasional trolling.
Angeldust,
Mumblee wrote:I was going to go through your argument point-for-point, but it seems that they are all predicated on the same argument, that the guy wanted to build server software from scratch. To back this up, you cite his usage of "how i can make my own faldon server". I think you're reading too much into this, though. I don't know what your nationality is, (I'm guessing somewhere in the crown colonies, based on your use of "favour" over "favor") but in America the phrase "make my own" is used colloquially in a way that doesn't necessarily mean "make from base components".
For example: A person might say "I am going to make macaroni and cheese for dinner". This does not necessarily imply that they are going to roll their own dough, shape it into macaroni, milk a cow, age its milk into cheese for several months, and then shred that cheese in order to make macaroni and cheese. More likely it means they are going to take some pre-compiled components and prepare them in a few easy steps.
Now, you might be saying to yourself "But Mumblenutts, real world analogies don't apply to software, even when we're just arguing about idiomatic use of the English language.", to which I would point out that the term "Make" in software also doesn't mean "write code". In fact, it's generally used to refer to taking existing source code and compiling it into usable software. For further reading, please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Make_%28software%29.
And you know what - even if the guy was asking what you think he was (which I'm almost sure he was not), there was no reason for you to be a dick to him. His only crime was curiosity. What has he done wrong by asking a question that wasn't even directed at you? You're just choosing to bully him to make yourself feel good.
You're assumption pertaining to geographical location is correct; your northerly superior Canada, to be exact. I understand that you do not believe he was intentionally asking to create a server from scratch; however, I believe you're in the wrong.
"Hey! I just wondered how i can make my own Daldon server. Is it hard to make one or can Zer send me some files from the real server but a copy of it?"
He's first inquires on how he could possibly make his own Faldon server. He then inquired if it was hard. He then used an "OR" in conjunction with his predicate alluding to the possibility of having files sent to him that he requires to host a server. Take from his post what you will, but interpret it more this way to understand that he's asking to create from scratch OR have the files sent to him (as you've referred to as the files occasionally bundled with some games). Even with bundled server software, the definition of software server implies a hosted environment; having this bundled software allows you to host an already created server application, you would simply create the content up to, and including scripting, maps, items, ect. The server has already been made, your simply designing and hosting what was already created.
As for bullying, I don't care how old he is; I've already said I do not discriminate based on age. Additionally, I've seen many posts from you over the years that could be considered bullying. How's it any different? Trolling is fun. Trolling is good.
Please continue to respond and encourage this conversation. My cure for boredom is the occasional trolling.
Angeldust,
That's all fair and good, but you typo'd whilst failing to be touched by a girl.
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